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welcome to another episode of THC folks

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smoke a little smoke drink and a little

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drink from San Diego I'm Greg Carwood

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and today we're going to zero in on the

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Catholic Church's role in the big

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conspiracy when you look at the values

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of the Catholic Church you should see

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peace love and equality reaching out to

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feed the poor how's the shelterless you

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should see active campaigning to end the

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wars and reject consumerism they should

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promote healthy living nutrition

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meditation harmony instead when you look

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at the real members of the Catholic

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hierarchy the Pope is living in a golden

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palace big enough to house thousands of

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suffering people on the streets

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he wears prada shoes with big rings and

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a jewel encrusted hat while the most

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notable action of its clergy in recent

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years is the systematic molestation and

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abuse of children and the shuffling

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around of those accused of such actions

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besides soliciting money and leading a

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weekly ritual and doctrine ization they

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do very little else or anything to

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promote the values they preach about

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with news of the Pope's resignation I

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contacted a man who's been leading the

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charge against such corruption ex

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minister of the United Church of Canada

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Kevin Arnett he's been a front-runner in

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exposing the terrible acts and abuse of

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the native people of Canada in the

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making of his film unrepentant Kevin

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welcome to the show thanks Greg thanks

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for having me

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hey it's a real pleasure and with all

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the things happening right now I'm sure

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your time is in high demand so thanks

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for spending the hour with us I really

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do appreciate that it's pleasure and if

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you wouldn't mind tell the people about

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how you got started on this course what

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led up to the making of unrepentant well

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you know it's been 20 years 20 years ago

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last summer I was I went to the west

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coast where I'm still living on

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Vancouver Island and I just I was a

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newly ordained Protestant clergyman I

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just did what I thought a minister was

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to do which is to open this church to

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everybody and there's a real colorbar

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still in Canada

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Indians and whites don't often mix and

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so I started bringing Indians into the

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church and I began to hear these stories

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of how so many of them died in the

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boarding schools run by both the

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Catholic and Protestant churches out

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here right to 1996 I mean the stories

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were horrible and I was told at the time

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to ignore them all you know the church

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wasn't being sued at that point so they

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can afford to ignore everything but

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actually I hope to bring out this truth

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I did let people who have witnessed

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killings in these schools speak from my

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pulpit I tried to force the church to

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take a stand on it and and in return I

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got fired for it driven right out of the

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church and my livelihood and so my

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family break up over it a lot of bad

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personal cost but in so doing I want a

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lot more credibility among maybe people

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they began to share more stuff with me

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and over the years we've built up a

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whole movement that finally forced the

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Canadian government to acknowledge that

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you know a lot of children died

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according their own statistics half

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these kids never came back we're talking

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tens of thousands of children who died

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run in the United States so more and

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more over the years we realized that

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this was happening in many countries

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that the common denominator was the

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Roman Catholic Church which set up a lot

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of these schools and we've taken it all

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the way now to Rome and as you know if

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you people go to our website ITC CS org

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they can see how big this thing is

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becoming now that you know people all

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over the world are speaking out finally

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about how this has cost the lives and

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millions of people and I think the mask

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is really slipped people see the Vatican

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in these churches for what they are

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absolutely and the ITCC s how did that

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form that's the International Tribunal

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into crimes of church and state yes

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Oh three years ago I was in Ireland

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speaking I was invited to lumber places

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in Europe to give talks because of what

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I've been doing for years in Canada with

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the survivors of these these crimes and

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in Ireland some people suggested that

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well you know we're dealing with an

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international corporation here called

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the Vaticanus it's time that the victims

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got organized across borders and we set

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up the tribunal first to investigate

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these crimes and then finally to start

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to take legal action and we began to

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work with lawyers in various countries

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including in New York the Center for

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Constitutional Rights there

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and we began to put together illegal

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bought a common law court which is

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actually brought in a verdict already

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against 30 we call them the dirty thirty

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these top church and government

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officials including the Pope and a bunch

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of Cardinals who had a direct role in

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ordering the cover-up of these crimes

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that murder and rape all over the world

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so we're really happy that we're finally

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getting this out and it's reaching seems

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to be reaching more of a critical mass

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of awareness yeah we find ourselves in

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strange times being stuck inside the

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American bubble with the state-run media

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who is deeply in bed with any

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traditional organization of power it's

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tough to really know what's going on

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other than the Pope has decided to

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resign from his post something that

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hasn't happened in 600 years and

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apparently has never happened outside of

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war time but we've learned to watch

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world events very carefully because

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there's almost always an alternative

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story and that seems to be definitely

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the case here I mean it's the Pope's

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resignation a in direct relation to the

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pressure from the ITCC s oh absolutely

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you know we give you an example of that

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the there isn't just our court action

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there's the International Criminal Court

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is bringing a charge against Ratzinger

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as a German citizen it's brought by a

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number of groups in America that we

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worked with we provided evidence to

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legal groups in Europe and even

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governments to act on this and so you

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know we're very convinced that because

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of that and also all the court cases you

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know the Mahoney case in LA the jailing

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of the first Catholic bishop in US

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history of the William Lynn case in

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Philadelphia last year all of this stuff

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hitting the press you know the truth

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it's just so enormous that they can't

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hide anymore and you know the numbers

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people are voting with their feet in

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Austria alone last year which is one of

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the most conservative Catholic countries

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in Europe besides Ireland thirty

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thousand people left the Catholic Church

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and so you know we're gonna see the

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snowball more and more yeah I mean isn't

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the the Queen of England is named in

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this case as well I'm alright yeah well

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she has a direct role of course he's the

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head of a formally in this colonial

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system we live on in Canada she's still

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a head of state but also she is the head

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of the Church of England which was

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one of the main churches that set up

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these these death camps they call

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residential schools we even found

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Canterbury referred to by people in the

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Anglican Church in Canada ordering

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cover-ups of mass graves of kids in

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across Canada so you know the crown of

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England is directly implicated in a lot

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of this stuff as well as the Vatican

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seems like there's so many different

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charges from so many different people

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but the one that you're involved in I

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guess there was a what exactly happened

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there was a guilty verdict reached and

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they're they're supposed to respond by

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March 4th correct right well this is a

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group of citizen jurors volunteers from

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all over the world and 33 of them after

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a month of deliberation and looking at

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all the evidence about genocide in

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Canada they came up with a verdict found

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that the parties guilty and sends them

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to 25 years in prison which is normal

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under international law

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when heads of state are involved in war

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crimes that's a normal sentence usually

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life imprisonment is more likely but I

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had also ordered that they lose their

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property in assets so in other words

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when you think about it every Church in

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the world is you know especially America

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in Canada places all supported with

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taxpayers money they're publicly they're

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public institutions at the operators

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private criminal bodies laws unto

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themselves where they can legally rape

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children and get away with it so what we

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say is these are supported by the public

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public should have the right to go in

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there and seize that property and wealth

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if it's not being used in the way it

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should be you know under the income tax

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laws they should lose their charitable

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tax exemptions because they're they're

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committing crimes and there's no way

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that tax payers should and should

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subsidize that so we're saying this is

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bigger than just the arrest of a few

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people we want to disestablish the power

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of these churches to do these crimes in

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the first place yeah I mean I am

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completely on board with that I'm sure

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this audience would agree that the

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Catholic Church is really just a front

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organization for power-hungry criminals

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when will the Pope and the Queen of

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England actually you know be arrested or

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start to have to confront this stuff or

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is this gonna get swept under the rug

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like so many other things we see well

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you know they've got a lot of worldly

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power on their side but even that's

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collapsing you notice the Queen

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was supposed to be in Rome today and she

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canceled her visit under this bogus

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story about having a stomach ailment

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she's afraid to leave the country

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because like Buscher Chaney they know

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that they can face a rich citizen arrest

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under international law for committing

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crimes against humanity so any other

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pope is hiding out the Vatican is said

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they're going to protect them even

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though there's a rest warrants out firm

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now for the International Criminal Court

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on our Court

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so yeah whether or not we're able to

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immediately detain these people isn't

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you know people are gonna try there's

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other people involved too the Prime

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Minister of Canada heads of the churches

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in Canada you know representatives like

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that and even though there was a head of

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Weyerhaeuser company I don't know if you

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know Weyerhaeuser is one of the biggest

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logging companies in the world it's

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based in Seattle and we've got solid

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evidence that they were involved in

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actually grabbing native land illegally

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in Vancouver Island and committing

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helping to commit genocide there you

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know the head of Daniel Fulton the head

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of Weyerhaeuser's being named as well so

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people eco-activists in seattle are

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going to try to perform a citizen's

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arrest on him as well so this stuff is

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it's a one-year warrant it was issued if

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people go to ITCC org just yesterday the

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citizen arrest warrant was posted there

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you can read it it gives anyone the

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authorization to go over the next year

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and arrest these people detain them as

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citizens knowing that these people

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present a represent a threat to the

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children and others in our communities

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you know when the police and the courts

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don't act citizens have the right to do

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that and this is what we're asserting

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yeah let's actually talk about

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unrepentant a little bit it is a great

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eye-opener I had no idea this was going

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on it seems like people in the movie are

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telling their experiences under the care

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of these Catholic institutions kids are

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getting electrically charged needles

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stuck in their brain stuck in their

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penises you know really shocking stuff

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no pun intended no no it's really

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horrible and as matter of fact we proved

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over the years of documenting this we've

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got the the the movie unrepentant first

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of all can be found at a website hidden

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no longer calm and a hidden no longer

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calm you see not only the film

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unrepentant but all of the documentation

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I've acquired over

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20 years it's got 273 eyewitnesses who

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are in residential schools its got

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documents from the government showing a

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death rate of over 50% because they take

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healthy kids put them in the same dorms

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as kids dying of tuberculosis and

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smallpox and then never treating anybody

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there was just germ warfare kill off

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lots of kids especially in the West when

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they wanted to open the area for white

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settlement and so it was a killing

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ground in these schools and we

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documented that every definition of

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genocide under the UN Convention on

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genocide happened in Indian boarding

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schools both in Canada and America we're

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talking sterilization programs killing

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off children of creating long term

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conditions where they die off breaking

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up families all of that's genocide under

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international law canada's guilty of it

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proven and yet not one person has ever

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gone to jail here for the death of one

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of these 50,000 children who never came

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back

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you know and the number is even higher

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in America so you know we're dealing

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with definite crimes against humanity

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right and they seem to operate under a

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different set of rules they seem to be

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above the law I mean I remember a time

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when someone rushed Dick Cheney on a

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stage and tried to claim citizen's

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arrest and you know the arrest of the

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Pope and the Queen of England along with

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the seizure of a token assets I'm sure

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that seems a little too large of an

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operation to believe for some people are

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you planning to face resistance from the

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establishment I mean do you think the

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Pope's gonna get asylum on the Vatican

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grounds he's got asylum but don't forget

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these people rule through appearance and

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fear it's really a bubble and as soon as

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you puncture it you'll see that they're

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just people under international law

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anyone including a head of state can go

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to trial for being involved in or even

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covering up crimes against humanity

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which both the Pope and the Queen have

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done the Pope signed letters to American

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bishops order in them to protect child

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rapists in the clergy he did the same to

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the bishops in Ireland just three years

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ago and so don't forget that we're also

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I don't think I mentioned this but we're

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contacting the police in these countries

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in Canada America

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England and Italy and we've announced

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them that you know open and aboveboard

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we've announced our intention we've

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asked for their help in detaining these

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people and if the police don't help us

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they're betraying their oath of office

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and we can legally ignore them so

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we're asking the police to be on the

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right side of justice here and I'll tell

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you we put this to the test when we

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occupied churches in Vancouver the

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police used to show up and threaten us

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we've just said look you're protecting

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child rapist here and we hand them

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information they at that point then you

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should usually go away or they just

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avoid confronting us because they know

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we're in the right so that's a very

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powerful thing too for people to realize

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that kind of citizen power when you

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stand on what's what's right and lawful

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and then that's great because

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traditionally police are not very

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responsive I mean during the Occupy

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protests in general last year you know

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you saw police beating and macing kids

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when really they're just trying to stand

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up to injustice --is and they're getting

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met by the police which now seems to be

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a private security force for the powers

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that be but you know it's a it's a damn

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shame but it's good that they're you

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know you're actually able to break

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through to them a little bit but how did

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the United States get off the hook here

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I mean you got the Queen Prime Minister

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of Canada the Pope I mean obviously the

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United States has got to be involved to

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some extent heavily involved and you

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know this is just the first case in the

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docket you know this case had to do with

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genocide in Canada future cases involved

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specifically the Vatican and the way

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these acts of genocide occurred in

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America too so I just want to urge

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listeners to realize that we're I'm

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gonna be more active in the States as a

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matter of fact in April and then again

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in July I'm doing speaking tours on the

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East Coast and then right across to the

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west coast I'm supposed to be in

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California in July and I would love to

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give public talks and meet with people

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organized groups to work on this

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absolutely do you have anything planned

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for the LA area or San Diego we do yeah

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and it'll be don't have a date in July

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yet but I'm buddy to both places and you

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know we can talk more and plan some

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stuff absolutely you know keep me posted

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because I will let the audience know I

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mean people seem to be hungry for some

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kind of justice what with all kinds of

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power structures and it's it's great to

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see something happening I mean I've been

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hearing you talk about this for a while

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and there are other people in the

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conspiracy community for lack of a

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better term that that talk about justice

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coming and you know we wait and we wait

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and when the pope resigned that really

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put a light on in my head you know that

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seemed to be a huge milestone

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but what are you what do you know about

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this pedophilia ring I mean because it

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seems to be a real organized crime

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syndicate that the Pope is right at the

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top of I hear about similar rings in

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Hollywood and politics we had the Jerry

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Sandusky situation last year are these

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all parts of the same Network really you

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know it is it isn't necessarily one

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network but but the way it tends to

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operate and we've had more evidence of

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this is right within the and the reason

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it gets so hidden is because it tends to

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operate were right within the government

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system of child care you know that

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people former insiders have come forward

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describing how social services and

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others identify vulnerabilities and and

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I don't I don't know about American

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hospitals but in Canadian hospitals if

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the Catholic priest convinces a young

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woman who's pregnant and her child

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there's a thing called the BFA protocol

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baby for adoption she signs away her

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child when she's still pregnant that

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baby isn't trafficked you know to

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adoption agencies or is there's a lot of

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money made in the process you know this

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trafficking is going on read within our

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systems of government and you know for

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every honest person in the system

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there's another involved in this we find

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dealing like when you look at corruption

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in the police forces people you know in

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in that kind of fraternity our condition

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to think well we can't rat each other

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out we can't be the one you know the

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kind of the Serpico mentality you can't

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you got to distrust the honest cop

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because everybody else might get in

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trouble right it's that kind of system

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very much within the church clergy tend

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to close ranks even when they know

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they're raping two kids they still back

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each other and and so you know that's

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part of the big problem here that it's

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not a few sickos there was there was you

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know it's a whole system that's very

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lucrative there was a really interesting

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article you know paper called Rock Creek

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Free Press in Washington DC about three

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years ago the CIA admitted that as far

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back as the 1970s and that probably

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means earlier too they were actively and

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are still actively involved in child

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trafficking in Thailand as a means to

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blackmail visiting us congressmen and

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Senators

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so I mean you know for the CIA to say

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yeah we do child trafficking we're

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involved in in in this kind of shame

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I mean that's amazing for them to feel

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they can make that that admission you

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know how widespread it is well we did

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see on the news not long ago sometime in

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2012 I mean I saw this Anderson Cooper

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report it was pretty jarring but they

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said that they found child porn on the

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computers of over half the staff of the

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Pentagon and you hear the story and then

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it just gets it just gets thrown away

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you know it's like why even report it

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because you know nothing's gonna happen

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well you know that's the thing I mean

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the more power system has the more it

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attracts those elements then know they

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can get away with literal murder and

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child rape you know I'm a perfect

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example of that within the Catholic

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Church which your listeners might not

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know about is a law which as being in

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Canada law since 1962

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it's called Crimmins selasa Tanis and

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it's it's an order to every priest and

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bishop in the world that when children

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are raped in Catholic parishes anywhere

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the their to be silenced the victim

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silence and the police not told now

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that's an order to break the laws of

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your own country coming right from Rome

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it's a law on the books of the Catholic

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Church you can even read it it's posted

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on our appendix in hidden no longer com

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read paragraph 11 it just you describe

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something called a Pontifical Secret

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that's when a child is raped it's kept

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secret now that's a criminal conspiracy

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why isn't every one involved in them

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facing arrest and trial but they get

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away with it you know because they're

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the Vatican they have a lot of money and

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political influence yeah it's a really

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messed up situation when people are just

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and people are used to the idea that

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priests rape kids everybody hears about

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it everybody knows about it and it's

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just so overlooked and it's like the

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most damning thing you can do I don't

546
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know understand how it can be overlooked

547
00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:44,820
but it seems to be such a huge part of

548
00:19:48,350 --> 00:19:46,650
the Catholic Church like almost like

549
00:19:50,810 --> 00:19:48,360
this whole organization is set up as a

550
00:19:53,090 --> 00:19:50,820
front for their real goal of just

551
00:19:54,890 --> 00:19:53,100
molesting kids it's it's really

552
00:19:56,870 --> 00:19:54,900
backwards but even that law you just

553
00:19:58,970 --> 00:19:56,880
said it's it's odd that that would be on

554
00:20:00,650 --> 00:19:58,980
the books and unless this was something

555
00:20:02,990 --> 00:20:00,660
that was systematically supposed to

556
00:20:04,790 --> 00:20:03,000
happen well the reality is that child

557
00:20:06,050 --> 00:20:04,800
rape is not a crime under the law may be

558
00:20:08,180 --> 00:20:06,060
a crime in theory but not in practice

559
00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:08,190
like the Canadian government

560
00:20:12,140 --> 00:20:10,530
if you can believe this Stephen Harper

561
00:20:15,790 --> 00:20:12,150
this is one of the reasons he's named in

562
00:20:18,860 --> 00:20:15,800
the lawsuit our common lawsuit he just

563
00:20:21,950 --> 00:20:18,870
under his government just last year the

564
00:20:25,550 --> 00:20:21,960
Criminal Code of Canada was altered so

565
00:20:27,580 --> 00:20:25,560
that now there's the mandatory ascendant

566
00:20:30,950 --> 00:20:27,590
scene for child rape is only one year

567
00:20:32,390 --> 00:20:30,960
which is it was five years earlier they

568
00:20:34,700 --> 00:20:32,400
brought it down to one year now why the

569
00:20:36,590 --> 00:20:34,710
hell would they make it easy you know

570
00:20:38,270 --> 00:20:36,600
less of a crime to rape a child then to

571
00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:38,280
own a marijuana plant which gets you to

572
00:20:42,100 --> 00:20:40,650
hell you know I mean what does it tell

573
00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:42,110
you about the values in these people

574
00:20:46,580 --> 00:20:44,610
right it's like they're skewing the

575
00:20:48,380 --> 00:20:46,590
punishments for the crimes that the

576
00:20:51,890 --> 00:20:48,390
elites are gonna be committing versus

577
00:20:53,690 --> 00:20:51,900
the regular Joe schmo's right so you

578
00:20:55,490 --> 00:20:53,700
know I mean but we've come to realize

579
00:20:58,160 --> 00:20:55,500
that it's the very people in power who

580
00:20:59,960 --> 00:20:58,170
are the enemy and when you go up and

581
00:21:01,490 --> 00:20:59,970
there's a long tradition unfortunately

582
00:21:02,990 --> 00:21:01,500
we don't have as much of that tradition

583
00:21:04,730 --> 00:21:03,000
in Canada as you have in America but a

584
00:21:06,980 --> 00:21:04,740
long tradition and it's written right in

585
00:21:08,540 --> 00:21:06,990
your Constitution that when the

586
00:21:10,100 --> 00:21:08,550
government becomes destructive to the

587
00:21:13,310 --> 00:21:10,110
aims of the freedom of the people that

588
00:21:15,500 --> 00:21:13,320
government can be overthrown and in fact

589
00:21:17,510 --> 00:21:15,510
you know innocent justice suggestin says

590
00:21:19,820 --> 00:21:17,520
it's violating your constitutional

591
00:21:21,650 --> 00:21:19,830
rights gotta be overthrown people now

592
00:21:23,930 --> 00:21:21,660
how you do that is another question but

593
00:21:25,130 --> 00:21:23,940
it doesn't have legitimacy at that point

594
00:21:28,430 --> 00:21:25,140
and that's what people are waking up to

595
00:21:30,620 --> 00:21:28,440
I think with the church as well and not

596
00:21:33,140 --> 00:21:30,630
to get too weird with this but outside

597
00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:33,150
of the sexual abuse of children I hear a

598
00:21:38,090 --> 00:21:35,610
lot of stories about occult rituals and

599
00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:38,100
blood sacrifice are these just gross

600
00:21:43,010 --> 00:21:40,650
exercises the power is there some type

601
00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:43,020
of energy aspect of these events is

602
00:21:47,780 --> 00:21:44,970
there something going on that we don't

603
00:21:51,620 --> 00:21:47,790
understand very much I think that's part

604
00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:51,630
of the deeper beast we're facing and now

605
00:21:57,650 --> 00:21:55,050
whether or not you know I've seen some

606
00:22:00,080 --> 00:21:57,660
very odd things life as we all have but

607
00:22:01,940 --> 00:22:00,090
how you interpret it that the reality is

608
00:22:03,860 --> 00:22:01,950
the people doing those satanic rituals

609
00:22:05,390 --> 00:22:03,870
genuinely believe themselves that they

610
00:22:09,020 --> 00:22:05,400
derive energy from the blood of the

611
00:22:10,340 --> 00:22:09,030
newborn whether in fact that happens I

612
00:22:11,780 --> 00:22:10,350
believe there is a spiritual element

613
00:22:13,010 --> 00:22:11,790
there and there's a there is an inner

614
00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:13,020
it's kind of like a form of energy

615
00:22:18,260 --> 00:22:15,930
vampirism and leave that they live off

616
00:22:19,120 --> 00:22:18,270
the innocent in that way definitely and

617
00:22:22,290 --> 00:22:19,130
what better

618
00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:22,300
illusion to hide behind them religion

619
00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:24,490
in order to achieve that so yeah I think

620
00:22:29,010 --> 00:22:26,890
definitely that's at work it seems to be

621
00:22:32,550 --> 00:22:29,020
like just an interpretation of the old

622
00:22:33,570 --> 00:22:32,560
sacrificing the Virgin lore yeah that's

623
00:22:35,370 --> 00:22:33,580
true and it when you think about

624
00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:35,380
Christianity all of its violent

625
00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:36,850
symbolism it's talking about blood

626
00:22:42,980 --> 00:22:39,010
sacrifice the blood of Christ sacrifice

627
00:22:46,260 --> 00:22:42,990
for us you know reading up the hist the

628
00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:46,270
New Testament scholars how very well

629
00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:47,890
they figure recently there's a group

630
00:22:54,270 --> 00:22:51,730
called the Chicago in Chicago it's

631
00:22:56,070 --> 00:22:54,280
called the Jesus Seminar and these are

632
00:22:58,200 --> 00:22:56,080
home probably a hundred of the best

633
00:23:00,060 --> 00:22:58,210
biblical scholars in the world they've

634
00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:00,070
wrote a book ten years ago that showed

635
00:23:04,020 --> 00:23:01,930
that about 87 percent of the words of

636
00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:04,030
Jesus were ascribed to him later they

637
00:23:07,980 --> 00:23:05,410
didn't even come from somebody who might

638
00:23:09,810 --> 00:23:07,990
have been named that and all that that

639
00:23:12,930 --> 00:23:09,820
story of the crucifixion the birth

640
00:23:14,970 --> 00:23:12,940
narrative all of that stuff is made up I

641
00:23:19,710 --> 00:23:14,980
mean it didn't come from that time and

642
00:23:21,270 --> 00:23:19,720
place and you know it's it's you know we

643
00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:21,280
know what the recycled myth of Osiris

644
00:23:27,060 --> 00:23:25,090
and Isis say okay that's well proven but

645
00:23:28,710 --> 00:23:27,070
the thing to understand about the reason

646
00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:28,720
the church injected all that violent

647
00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:30,490
imagery and them and and the scribe did

648
00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:32,770
to Jesus was that it was a way of

649
00:23:36,630 --> 00:23:35,050
control that if you chroma ties people

650
00:23:37,950 --> 00:23:36,640
at a young age and this is what's really

651
00:23:39,270 --> 00:23:37,960
at the heart of child rape and

652
00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:39,280
trafficking and all of these crimes

653
00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:41,410
we're documenting if you traumatized

654
00:23:44,340 --> 00:23:42,730
children at a young age they're not

655
00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:44,350
going to resist Authority they don't

656
00:23:48,300 --> 00:23:45,730
believe in themselves they believe their

657
00:23:50,550 --> 00:23:48,310
shameful and weak people like everyone I

658
00:23:54,270 --> 00:23:50,560
go context me the first question they

659
00:23:55,890 --> 00:23:54,280
have is can we do this do I have to do

660
00:23:58,830 --> 00:23:55,900
this well I don't know I asked them do

661
00:24:00,240 --> 00:23:58,840
you in yourself do you feel you have the

662
00:24:02,490 --> 00:24:00,250
authority and power to do this because

663
00:24:04,710 --> 00:24:02,500
we've had that battered out of us child

664
00:24:07,710 --> 00:24:04,720
abuse is a way to keep a hierarchical

665
00:24:10,740 --> 00:24:07,720
Society going and I think that's part of

666
00:24:13,170 --> 00:24:10,750
the political reason keeps going I grew

667
00:24:15,090 --> 00:24:13,180
up in a Catholic school and it always

668
00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:15,100
seemed very weird to me the whole the

669
00:24:17,190 --> 00:24:16,450
rituals I mean right down to the mass

670
00:24:18,900 --> 00:24:17,200
itself

671
00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:18,910
I mean people now are talking about

672
00:24:24,660 --> 00:24:22,210
Catholicism being veiled symbolic

673
00:24:26,490 --> 00:24:24,670
Satanism I mean like the mass you're

674
00:24:28,470 --> 00:24:26,500
literally paying homage to a human

675
00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:28,480
sacrifice being Jesus on the cross and

676
00:24:32,100 --> 00:24:30,250
then we ceremoniously drink his blood

677
00:24:34,890 --> 00:24:32,110
and eat his flesh I mean is that not

678
00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:34,900
what the elites are doing with real

679
00:24:39,210 --> 00:24:37,450
children well-well put I think that

680
00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:39,220
that's an exactly way to condition us to

681
00:24:43,940 --> 00:24:41,530
accept those things and at a minimum to

682
00:24:46,860 --> 00:24:43,950
be so battered emotionally that we lose

683
00:24:49,170 --> 00:24:46,870
you know sensitivity and empathy for

684
00:24:50,790 --> 00:24:49,180
that child you know that I remember when

685
00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:50,800
I was in my 20s and I was very involved

686
00:24:54,990 --> 00:24:52,930
for the first time in political activism

687
00:24:57,090 --> 00:24:55,000
when the whole issue of child abuse came

688
00:24:59,340 --> 00:24:57,100
out I had no emotional I said oh yeah

689
00:25:02,550 --> 00:24:59,350
okay so like it didn't strike me in my

690
00:25:04,380 --> 00:25:02,560
heart the way it did after I had my own

691
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:04,390
children you know and you hold your

692
00:25:09,270 --> 00:25:06,490
newborn babies and you realize there's

693
00:25:10,650 --> 00:25:09,280
something that was happened to us at a

694
00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:10,660
young age that we don't feel this

695
00:25:14,610 --> 00:25:12,850
innately now there's a good book I'd

696
00:25:16,500 --> 00:25:14,620
recommend people read hold for your own

697
00:25:18,930 --> 00:25:16,510
good by Alice Miller she's a German

698
00:25:22,290 --> 00:25:18,940
psychologist and she looks into the

699
00:25:23,850 --> 00:25:22,300
roots of European child violence and

700
00:25:26,790 --> 00:25:23,860
injustice in society the question she

701
00:25:28,860 --> 00:25:26,800
poses is why are people so acclimatized

702
00:25:31,230 --> 00:25:28,870
and do nothing about injustice her

703
00:25:32,910 --> 00:25:31,240
answer is because we have lost empathy

704
00:25:34,230 --> 00:25:32,920
for our own battering that occurred at a

705
00:25:36,210 --> 00:25:34,240
young age and if we don't have empathy

706
00:25:38,730 --> 00:25:36,220
for ourselves and what we suffer we

707
00:25:40,470 --> 00:25:38,740
can't for anybody else and she says

708
00:25:42,210 --> 00:25:40,480
every person needs to examine that in

709
00:25:43,950 --> 00:25:42,220
their life how are we being traumatized

710
00:25:46,140 --> 00:25:43,960
how would we lost that innate wisdom and

711
00:25:48,510 --> 00:25:46,150
empathy as a child to live in this kind

712
00:25:50,070 --> 00:25:48,520
of brutal society and so I just kind of

713
00:25:51,750 --> 00:25:50,080
plug that because I think we have to do

714
00:25:53,580 --> 00:25:51,760
that personal work in order to be able

715
00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:53,590
to equip equip ourselves to carry on

716
00:25:57,630 --> 00:25:55,930
this fight over the long run and what do

717
00:26:00,540 --> 00:25:57,640
you think contributes to that trauma

718
00:26:03,330 --> 00:26:00,550
because I've heard that the process of

719
00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:03,340
the hospital birth itself has some

720
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:04,930
things in it that do that as well as the

721
00:26:08,910 --> 00:26:07,090
circumcision when people talk about it

722
00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:08,920
being used for cleanliness and then

723
00:26:11,700 --> 00:26:10,090
there's people who just like it for

724
00:26:14,850 --> 00:26:11,710
cosmetic reasons but apparently the real

725
00:26:19,050 --> 00:26:14,860
reason is to traumatize a child without

726
00:26:21,090 --> 00:26:19,060
any kind of pain relief and that this

727
00:26:23,550 --> 00:26:21,100
has a real effect on the energy and the

728
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:23,560
the soul of the child I mean it maybe is

729
00:26:27,510 --> 00:26:25,450
looked into that at all oh well you know

730
00:26:29,730 --> 00:26:27,520
I've done some reading on that people

731
00:26:32,180 --> 00:26:29,740
have written some really good stuff on

732
00:26:35,220 --> 00:26:32,190
that absolutely it's part of the same

733
00:26:37,110 --> 00:26:35,230
system now systems perpetuated not

734
00:26:39,210 --> 00:26:37,120
necessarily by conscious activity every

735
00:26:40,770 --> 00:26:39,220
step it's it's a tradition people are

736
00:26:42,870 --> 00:26:40,780
conditioned to think oh well we just do

737
00:26:45,300 --> 00:26:42,880
it like why do you do it I don't know my

738
00:26:46,740 --> 00:26:45,310
dad did it had fun my dad so it's I

739
00:26:48,490 --> 00:26:46,750
guess it should happen to me that kind

740
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:48,500
of attitude right right

741
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:51,650
and I've heard a lot of your interviews

742
00:26:55,300 --> 00:26:53,210
preparing for this and I've read a lot

743
00:26:58,030 --> 00:26:55,310
of your recent pieces and I find you to

744
00:27:00,340 --> 00:26:58,040
be a pretty trustworthy guy and I heard

745
00:27:02,980 --> 00:27:00,350
you mentioned seeing exorcisms and

746
00:27:05,230 --> 00:27:02,990
possessions firsthand which I've always

747
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:05,240
thought of them as hoaxes but our demon

748
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:08,090
possessions are real phenomenon yeah I

749
00:27:11,590 --> 00:27:09,890
mean in I would say in a minority of

750
00:27:13,030 --> 00:27:11,600
cases the one I witnessed in Puerto

751
00:27:15,700 --> 00:27:13,040
Bernie I would say was genuine because

752
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:15,710
of what it was a booking literally the

753
00:27:19,060 --> 00:27:17,090
hair standing up on the back of your

754
00:27:21,910 --> 00:27:19,070
head the sense of a presence that wasn't

755
00:27:23,530 --> 00:27:21,920
human the the transformation and the

756
00:27:27,130 --> 00:27:23,540
person that happened when that spirit

757
00:27:29,290 --> 00:27:27,140
departed I mean you know I had other

758
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:29,300
more personal things that I can't share

759
00:27:35,980 --> 00:27:34,490
but you know definitely you know seeing

760
00:27:38,770 --> 00:27:35,990
this and in practice that there is

761
00:27:41,020 --> 00:27:38,780
something at work you know physicists

762
00:27:42,820 --> 00:27:41,030
say that 90% of the universe can't be

763
00:27:43,450 --> 00:27:42,830
observed that so-called dark matter and

764
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:43,460
dark energy

765
00:27:47,490 --> 00:27:45,170
well that means since we're an integral

766
00:27:51,700 --> 00:27:47,500
part of the universe that 90% of us

767
00:27:53,020 --> 00:27:51,710
can't be seen or understood and because

768
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:53,030
that's the fabric of the universe so

769
00:27:58,000 --> 00:27:56,450
this is something that we can we can get

770
00:27:59,350 --> 00:27:58,010
a sense of on other levels of our

771
00:28:01,540 --> 00:27:59,360
consciousness but it's hard to

772
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:01,550
rationally describe but it has an impact

773
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:04,850
on this nevertheless right do you have

774
00:28:08,500 --> 00:28:07,250
any idea what causes a demonic

775
00:28:11,860 --> 00:28:08,510
possession like what's the mechanism

776
00:28:14,950 --> 00:28:11,870
there does anybody know well you know

777
00:28:16,390 --> 00:28:14,960
the movie industry individualizes this

778
00:28:18,130 --> 00:28:16,400
like there's a kid and suddenly they're

779
00:28:21,670 --> 00:28:18,140
individually possessed you know and then

780
00:28:24,250 --> 00:28:21,680
individually they're these systems are

781
00:28:26,350 --> 00:28:24,260
in spirits work through systems I I

782
00:28:28,540 --> 00:28:26,360
believe the nature possession that it's

783
00:28:31,180 --> 00:28:28,550
collective it's institutionalized it's a

784
00:28:32,740 --> 00:28:31,190
whole system at work that you know

785
00:28:35,350 --> 00:28:32,750
there's an example of that in the Bible

786
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:35,360
there's a in the epistles I don't know

787
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:38,810
people read the Bible much at the latter

788
00:28:44,170 --> 00:28:40,850
part of the there's the Paul's letter to

789
00:28:45,670 --> 00:28:44,180
various churches and in Greek he says he

790
00:28:47,590 --> 00:28:45,680
addresses the churches though he doesn't

791
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:47,600
write to my name he addresses the Angel

792
00:28:54,370 --> 00:28:50,210
of the Church of Ephesus the Angel of

793
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:54,380
the Church of closure etc and he's

794
00:28:58,870 --> 00:28:56,090
referring to kind of the Oversoul the

795
00:29:00,160 --> 00:28:58,880
the group spirit that conditions all of

796
00:29:01,630 --> 00:29:00,170
the thoughts and behavior of everybody

797
00:29:02,649 --> 00:29:01,640
in within it and that's where I think

798
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:02,659
the level of possession

799
00:29:07,690 --> 00:29:05,210
not simply at the individual level but

800
00:29:09,279 --> 00:29:07,700
that collectively so for example you can

801
00:29:11,409 --> 00:29:09,289
talk to people who live under a system

802
00:29:12,639 --> 00:29:11,419
about the proven crimes of their church

803
00:29:14,919 --> 00:29:12,649
or government and they look at you with

804
00:29:16,450 --> 00:29:14,929
blank faces their mind is not allowing

805
00:29:18,879 --> 00:29:16,460
them to go there because they're under

806
00:29:21,099 --> 00:29:18,889
possession not as individuals but as

807
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:21,109
part of a collective and that's where

808
00:29:25,509 --> 00:29:23,690
the the possession the exorcism if you

809
00:29:27,249 --> 00:29:25,519
like needs to be addressed at the

810
00:29:30,369 --> 00:29:27,259
collective spirit now what's proof of

811
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:30,379
that is I went to Rome in October 2009

812
00:29:33,639 --> 00:29:32,090
and I did a little service outside the

813
00:29:35,469 --> 00:29:33,649
Vatican which was very interesting

814
00:29:37,330 --> 00:29:35,479
because there's normally police and

815
00:29:41,379 --> 00:29:37,340
security all over there and I stood

816
00:29:42,729 --> 00:29:41,389
there and did the service and nobody it

817
00:29:44,589 --> 00:29:42,739
was kind of like I was invisible and

818
00:29:45,849 --> 00:29:44,599
these police walked right by like I

819
00:29:48,759 --> 00:29:45,859
wasn't there and I thought oh this is

820
00:29:51,070 --> 00:29:48,769
cool okay so I the service turned out to

821
00:29:53,919 --> 00:29:51,080
be an exorcism right and I've done it

822
00:29:56,289 --> 00:29:53,929
twice there and right after the first

823
00:30:00,609 --> 00:29:56,299
exorcism the next day a tornado gets the

824
00:30:04,539 --> 00:30:00,619
center of Rome okay and the next thing

825
00:30:06,909 --> 00:30:04,549
is within about a month the revelations

826
00:30:07,810 --> 00:30:06,919
start hitting the European media about

827
00:30:10,899 --> 00:30:07,820
rotzinger

828
00:30:11,950 --> 00:30:10,909
this after the second one in which was I

829
00:30:13,509 --> 00:30:11,960
mean the first one is the naming

830
00:30:15,190 --> 00:30:13,519
ceremony where you tell the experience

831
00:30:17,469 --> 00:30:15,200
to reveal itself and sure enough it's

832
00:30:19,509 --> 00:30:17,479
revealed right second one is the

833
00:30:21,099 --> 00:30:19,519
abandoned where you actually tell it to

834
00:30:23,499 --> 00:30:21,109
get gone now what's happened in Rome the

835
00:30:25,359 --> 00:30:23,509
Pope is gone the day he resigned a

836
00:30:28,479 --> 00:30:25,369
lightning bolt hits the the Cathedral

837
00:30:30,399 --> 00:30:28,489
the Vatican dome I mean there's there's

838
00:30:31,899 --> 00:30:30,409
forces here because we're addressing the

839
00:30:33,700 --> 00:30:31,909
collective entity here we're not just

840
00:30:36,369 --> 00:30:33,710
talking about the issue wasn't resting

841
00:30:37,570 --> 00:30:36,379
or at all as a person I mean I'm sure if

842
00:30:40,419 --> 00:30:37,580
you got him away from all this he'd be

843
00:30:42,759 --> 00:30:40,429
an okay guy but you know within the

844
00:30:44,409 --> 00:30:42,769
system he's part of this thing and it

845
00:30:46,269 --> 00:30:44,419
takes control of him just like it does

846
00:30:48,279 --> 00:30:46,279
all of us who operate in these these

847
00:30:49,749 --> 00:30:48,289
systems so I would say that that's kind

848
00:30:51,099 --> 00:30:49,759
of a clue to how we deal with this what

849
00:30:54,159 --> 00:30:51,109
we're dealing with and the weapon we

850
00:30:55,899 --> 00:30:54,169
have to face it yeah when you look at

851
00:30:58,749 --> 00:30:55,909
some pictures of the Pope he looks

852
00:31:02,109 --> 00:30:58,759
incredibly demonic it's it's ridiculous

853
00:31:03,820 --> 00:31:02,119
it's kind of scary how how big of a 180

854
00:31:05,799 --> 00:31:03,830
that is from the way he's supposed to

855
00:31:08,769 --> 00:31:05,809
look on what you'd expect the leader of

856
00:31:12,399 --> 00:31:08,779
a caring loving organization to look

857
00:31:14,169 --> 00:31:12,409
like bingo and why do you think it is

858
00:31:15,820 --> 00:31:14,179
that some people can reject this program

859
00:31:16,419 --> 00:31:15,830
you know I've been circumcised I went

860
00:31:18,549 --> 00:31:16,429
through this try

861
00:31:21,009 --> 00:31:18,559
a hospital birth I went to private

862
00:31:22,930 --> 00:31:21,019
school for my whole life and it all like

863
00:31:24,249 --> 00:31:22,940
it just didn't resonate with me and I

864
00:31:26,739 --> 00:31:24,259
and there's a lot of friends I have

865
00:31:28,149 --> 00:31:26,749
where there just seems to be a blockage

866
00:31:30,009 --> 00:31:28,159
there do you have any idea why some

867
00:31:34,899 --> 00:31:30,019
people can reject it so easily and some

868
00:31:36,789 --> 00:31:34,909
just are stuck yeah well I mean we're

869
00:31:38,619 --> 00:31:36,799
different every soul on the planet is

870
00:31:40,029 --> 00:31:38,629
different some of us a more open look at

871
00:31:43,049 --> 00:31:40,039
truth than others some of us are able to

872
00:31:45,820 --> 00:31:43,059
deal with fear and and move through it

873
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:45,830
but I also think we all have a purpose

874
00:31:49,419 --> 00:31:47,330
for being here and those of us who have

875
00:31:51,580 --> 00:31:49,429
the purpose of engaging in this battle

876
00:31:53,769 --> 00:31:51,590
are armed to do it internally I mean we

877
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:53,779
can we can deal with things we can go

878
00:31:58,330 --> 00:31:56,210
through things more you see that in in

879
00:32:01,239 --> 00:31:58,340
healing circles where people have been

880
00:32:03,460 --> 00:32:01,249
through the same trauma some people you

881
00:32:06,669 --> 00:32:03,470
know the term is quote milder although I

882
00:32:08,350 --> 00:32:06,679
don't want to quantify pain but they

883
00:32:11,499 --> 00:32:08,360
collapse under it and others who go

884
00:32:13,330 --> 00:32:11,509
through incredible hell are able to walk

885
00:32:14,980 --> 00:32:13,340
with us into these churches occupy it

886
00:32:16,450 --> 00:32:14,990
and don't show fear in the face of the

887
00:32:18,669 --> 00:32:16,460
very system that tortured them as a

888
00:32:20,139 --> 00:32:18,679
young child so I can't explain why that

889
00:32:23,769 --> 00:32:20,149
is but I do know we're different in that

890
00:32:24,879 --> 00:32:23,779
way yeah it's for healing circles can

891
00:32:28,269 --> 00:32:24,889
you tell us a little bit more about that

892
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:28,279
have you seen that work in practice well

893
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:29,690
it's a it's a hard thing to go through

894
00:32:34,869 --> 00:32:31,850
because there's this word Healing is a

895
00:32:36,879 --> 00:32:34,879
really cheap political term that they

896
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:36,889
use a you know and I find working with

897
00:32:39,820 --> 00:32:38,210
native people here the white society

898
00:32:43,629 --> 00:32:39,830
here I'd like to use and we're healing

899
00:32:45,039 --> 00:32:43,639
as a way to avoid to say let's deny the

900
00:32:46,690 --> 00:32:45,049
stuff and suppress it and get on with

901
00:32:48,279 --> 00:32:46,700
and not deal with anything here you're

902
00:32:52,299 --> 00:32:48,289
healed here's ten thousand dollars your

903
00:32:54,549 --> 00:32:52,309
heal um that's what white Canada how

904
00:32:58,810 --> 00:32:54,559
they deal with this genocide at that

905
00:33:01,570 --> 00:32:58,820
they've done but actual recovery I don't

906
00:33:03,279 --> 00:33:01,580
think is ever really possible you can

907
00:33:05,859 --> 00:33:03,289
learn to stabilize you can learn to get

908
00:33:08,590 --> 00:33:05,869
to a level of function ability but you

909
00:33:12,430 --> 00:33:08,600
don't ever lose these scars you know you

910
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:12,440
learn you they build they either kind of

911
00:33:16,180 --> 00:33:14,450
internalized and they they form part of

912
00:33:19,419 --> 00:33:16,190
who you are but you don't recover I mean

913
00:33:22,239 --> 00:33:19,429
you don't ever get over the stuff but

914
00:33:23,799 --> 00:33:22,249
what you can do is you can transform and

915
00:33:27,669 --> 00:33:23,809
that's very different than healing

916
00:33:30,100 --> 00:33:27,679
transforming is you find a higher mind a

917
00:33:31,330 --> 00:33:30,110
higher identity and

918
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:31,340
that's personally how I've gotten

919
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:33,410
through this you know finding that that

920
00:33:37,510 --> 00:33:36,290
higher identity and purpose well it

921
00:33:39,190 --> 00:33:37,520
seems clear that when you look at

922
00:33:41,110 --> 00:33:39,200
Catholicism and everything they're

923
00:33:42,220 --> 00:33:41,120
involved in the Catholic hierarchy the

924
00:33:43,900 --> 00:33:42,230
people actually work for the

925
00:33:45,370 --> 00:33:43,910
organization there's no way they can

926
00:33:47,260 --> 00:33:45,380
believe their own religion because

927
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:47,270
they're stealing money raping kids so

928
00:33:51,310 --> 00:33:49,010
clearly they don't think there's gonna

929
00:33:53,650 --> 00:33:51,320
be eternal Hellfire waiting for them but

930
00:33:55,570 --> 00:33:53,660
what's your take on the entire Christian

931
00:33:57,070 --> 00:33:55,580
faith now that you've seen such

932
00:34:00,130 --> 00:33:57,080
corruption within it has it affected

933
00:34:01,750 --> 00:34:00,140
your own faith oh yeah well I mean I

934
00:34:03,940 --> 00:34:01,760
never really believed in big see

935
00:34:06,130 --> 00:34:03,950
Christianity was a minister I don't I

936
00:34:08,879 --> 00:34:06,140
think organized religion is is very

937
00:34:11,020 --> 00:34:08,889
different than spirituality I mean it's

938
00:34:12,609 --> 00:34:11,030
spirituality comes from within us I mean

939
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:12,619
you know Jesus saying the kingdom of

940
00:34:18,430 --> 00:34:15,770
heaven is within you he wasn't talking

941
00:34:20,500 --> 00:34:18,440
about a church or a Pope you know he's

942
00:34:23,409 --> 00:34:20,510
talking that spiritual equality would

943
00:34:25,510 --> 00:34:23,419
that we're all born within a glee but

944
00:34:26,710 --> 00:34:25,520
but the thing about Christianity I mean

945
00:34:29,230 --> 00:34:26,720
it depends what you're talking about

946
00:34:31,419 --> 00:34:29,240
what what kind of it's like when you say

947
00:34:32,950 --> 00:34:31,429
democracy well it's it's a word people

948
00:34:35,740 --> 00:34:32,960
kick around but have you ever really

949
00:34:37,720 --> 00:34:35,750
seen it not according to the Greek

950
00:34:39,609 --> 00:34:37,730
notion of democracy was that citizens

951
00:34:41,379 --> 00:34:39,619
had the right to remove rulers and to

952
00:34:43,510 --> 00:34:41,389
take them to court whenever they wanted

953
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:43,520
and to speak in the assembly that's not

954
00:34:48,220 --> 00:34:46,490
the democracy we live under you know

955
00:34:49,510 --> 00:34:48,230
just like Christianity it wasn't meant

956
00:34:52,149 --> 00:34:49,520
to be a religion it was meant to be a

957
00:34:54,970 --> 00:34:52,159
way of life of equality and justice and

958
00:34:56,770 --> 00:34:54,980
caring and love and people like to say

959
00:34:58,420 --> 00:34:56,780
they're doing that but if they can't

960
00:34:59,620 --> 00:34:58,430
within these institutions and I learned

961
00:35:02,109 --> 00:34:59,630
that the hard way that when you try to

962
00:35:04,180 --> 00:35:02,119
practice Christianity in in the

963
00:35:06,570 --> 00:35:04,190
Christian churches your your time is

964
00:35:09,790 --> 00:35:06,580
limited put it that way

965
00:35:11,590 --> 00:35:09,800
now aside from all the child abuse there

966
00:35:13,420 --> 00:35:11,600
also seems to be some serious crimes

967
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:13,430
going on with money at the Vatican Bank

968
00:35:16,030 --> 00:35:15,170
can you shed some light on that at all

969
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:16,040
because we're obviously we're not

970
00:35:20,530 --> 00:35:17,930
getting it from the media at the

971
00:35:22,060 --> 00:35:20,540
traditional media no well you know the

972
00:35:24,010 --> 00:35:22,070
Vatican Bank first of all is the most

973
00:35:25,510 --> 00:35:24,020
secret organization on the planet you

974
00:35:28,210 --> 00:35:25,520
can't audit it you can know who the

975
00:35:31,330 --> 00:35:28,220
directors are they destroy their records

976
00:35:34,810 --> 00:35:31,340
over five years and it's primarily its

977
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:34,820
it was it's a it's a money-laundering

978
00:35:38,980 --> 00:35:36,890
system for the mob I mean that's been

979
00:35:40,330 --> 00:35:38,990
known for decades the last Pope who

980
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:40,340
tried to do something about that got

981
00:35:44,100 --> 00:35:43,010
poisoned in office in 1978 John Paul the

982
00:35:47,110 --> 00:35:44,110
first

983
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:47,120
but the Vatican Bank was set up by the

984
00:35:52,890 --> 00:35:50,410
dictator Mussolini because in 1929 he

985
00:35:59,290 --> 00:35:52,900
reestablished the Vatican didn't exist

986
00:36:01,060 --> 00:35:59,300
in 1874 from 1870 in 1929 the Garibaldi

987
00:36:03,940 --> 00:36:01,070
they disestablished the Church of Rome

988
00:36:05,860 --> 00:36:03,950
and the Pope was a prisoner the Catholic

989
00:36:07,810 --> 00:36:05,870
Church had no power well Mussolini fixed

990
00:36:10,210 --> 00:36:07,820
that in 1929 he reestablished the

991
00:36:12,460 --> 00:36:10,220
Vatican made Catholicism the National

992
00:36:14,260 --> 00:36:12,470
religion of Italy and created the

993
00:36:16,090 --> 00:36:14,270
Vatican Bank and something called the

994
00:36:18,310 --> 00:36:16,100
Lateran treaty where basically it said

995
00:36:20,980 --> 00:36:18,320
the government in the the Church of Rome

996
00:36:24,780 --> 00:36:20,990
are one in the same body the Vatican

997
00:36:27,370 --> 00:36:24,790
Bank operates as the most secret corrupt

998
00:36:30,610 --> 00:36:27,380
financial institution on the planet and

999
00:36:31,660 --> 00:36:30,620
that's why even the Bank of America the

1000
00:36:33,370 --> 00:36:31,670
American Security and Exchange

1001
00:36:35,230 --> 00:36:33,380
Commission warned people that the

1002
00:36:38,500 --> 00:36:35,240
Vatican Bank is not trustworthy it's not

1003
00:36:40,630 --> 00:36:38,510
a trance transferring institution and

1004
00:36:42,430 --> 00:36:40,640
that's one of the reasons that its

1005
00:36:44,410 --> 00:36:42,440
credit is drying up and it's an extreme

1006
00:36:46,030 --> 00:36:44,420
crisis and that's probably one of the

1007
00:36:48,220 --> 00:36:46,040
reasons Ratzinger took a fall on this

1008
00:36:50,050 --> 00:36:48,230
and step down I've heard that it's in

1009
00:36:52,030 --> 00:36:50,060
crisis and I've heard that they're their

1010
00:36:54,010 --> 00:36:52,040
credits been revoked but don't you feel

1011
00:36:55,900 --> 00:36:54,020
feel like they probably have enough

1012
00:36:58,990 --> 00:36:55,910
wealth in there to sustain them for

1013
00:37:02,230 --> 00:36:59,000
probably a few generations they do I

1014
00:37:04,110 --> 00:37:02,240
mean they get 50 billion alone probably

1015
00:37:07,060 --> 00:37:04,120
out of the collection plate every year

1016
00:37:10,300 --> 00:37:07,070
but don't forget who are they in debt to

1017
00:37:12,130 --> 00:37:10,310
who do they owe you know that if without

1018
00:37:13,030 --> 00:37:12,140
the right information we can't know

1019
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:13,040
that's the reality

1020
00:37:18,790 --> 00:37:15,170
none of these records are known except

1021
00:37:20,980 --> 00:37:18,800
by inside Cardinals and and you know

1022
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:20,990
you've heard rumors about there being a

1023
00:37:25,180 --> 00:37:23,690
lot of Arab oil money Chinese just like

1024
00:37:29,170 --> 00:37:25,190
in America with the Chinese buying up

1025
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:29,180
the US debt all of that stuff we can't

1026
00:37:32,770 --> 00:37:31,130
really know but we can know indirectly

1027
00:37:37,270 --> 00:37:32,780
by their actions or what they don't do

1028
00:37:38,700 --> 00:37:37,280
and there is a good website Concordat

1029
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:38,710
watch dot-eu

1030
00:37:43,990 --> 00:37:42,530
concorde ads are of treaties between the

1031
00:37:45,310 --> 00:37:44,000
vatican and other governments well

1032
00:37:48,460 --> 00:37:45,320
they're not a government but I'd like to

1033
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:48,470
pretend they are a financial concurred

1034
00:37:53,290 --> 00:37:51,650
ad is when the the taxpayers money from

1035
00:37:55,630 --> 00:37:53,300
countries is actually channelled right

1036
00:37:57,010 --> 00:37:55,640
in the Vatican Bank and apparently

1037
00:37:57,490 --> 00:37:57,020
there's over a hundred countries with

1038
00:38:01,120 --> 00:37:57,500
these four

1039
00:38:02,380 --> 00:38:01,130
concordance including America so I don't

1040
00:38:03,940 --> 00:38:02,390
know if your listeners know but whether

1041
00:38:06,370 --> 00:38:03,950
you like it or not you're taxpayers

1042
00:38:08,050 --> 00:38:06,380
money is going to the money of paid to

1043
00:38:10,870 --> 00:38:08,060
the US government is largely being

1044
00:38:13,210 --> 00:38:10,880
channeled into the Vatican Bank man yeah

1045
00:38:16,210 --> 00:38:13,220
there's a lot of crimes being carried

1046
00:38:17,620 --> 00:38:16,220
out on taxpayer dollars these days but

1047
00:38:19,030 --> 00:38:17,630
it might be curious people might ask

1048
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:19,040
your local congressman do you know

1049
00:38:23,230 --> 00:38:20,570
anything about a financial concurred ad

1050
00:38:26,410 --> 00:38:23,240
and just watch them say no because they

1051
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:26,420
don't know probably what was this story

1052
00:38:32,260 --> 00:38:29,290
we saw last year with the Pope's Butler

1053
00:38:34,240 --> 00:38:32,270
my cover story what happened there did

1054
00:38:37,090 --> 00:38:34,250
apparently he tried to get some

1055
00:38:40,410 --> 00:38:37,100
documents out well know that his name is

1056
00:38:44,170 --> 00:38:40,420
paola Gabriel he was a butler right that

1057
00:38:47,290 --> 00:38:44,180
close attendant of the Pope and he

1058
00:38:50,410 --> 00:38:47,300
according to Italian press he went into

1059
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:50,420
the Pope's personal stuff and got his

1060
00:38:56,350 --> 00:38:52,970
diary and sent excerpts of a to an

1061
00:38:57,850 --> 00:38:56,360
Italian reporter the reporter just

1062
00:38:59,770 --> 00:38:57,860
happened to be buddies with Cardinal

1063
00:39:02,140 --> 00:38:59,780
Bertone II of the Secretary of State's

1064
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:02,150
office who actually isn't one who

1065
00:39:05,230 --> 00:39:03,530
released these documents because the

1066
00:39:07,180 --> 00:39:05,240
stuff that incriminated the Pope had to

1067
00:39:08,500 --> 00:39:07,190
do with Vatican Bank records that only

1068
00:39:10,180 --> 00:39:08,510
the Secretary of State could have

1069
00:39:12,910 --> 00:39:10,190
accessed the bad word couldn't have

1070
00:39:15,940 --> 00:39:12,920
these according to people I've talked to

1071
00:39:18,970 --> 00:39:15,950
in Italy these records refer to the fact

1072
00:39:22,060 --> 00:39:18,980
that the Pope was channeling Vatican

1073
00:39:24,100 --> 00:39:22,070
money and contracts to family and

1074
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:24,110
friends in Germany and other insiders in

1075
00:39:29,500 --> 00:39:27,650
Rome and pear Tony used that as a lever

1076
00:39:31,660 --> 00:39:29,510
to get Ratzinger out to take the fall

1077
00:39:33,670 --> 00:39:31,670
for some of this stuff Bertoni was a

1078
00:39:35,550 --> 00:39:33,680
kingmaker I mean he was the power behind

1079
00:39:39,070 --> 00:39:35,560
rotzinger and he's the guy who's now

1080
00:39:41,830 --> 00:39:39,080
appointing the new pope probably so I

1081
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:41,840
mean it's you know that really that

1082
00:39:49,540 --> 00:39:44,570
whole thing about the butler is there be

1083
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:49,550
Harvey Oswald's story right now it's

1084
00:39:54,700 --> 00:39:52,610
also there's a lot of rumors and talk

1085
00:39:57,070 --> 00:39:54,710
about the church's involvement with

1086
00:39:58,540 --> 00:39:57,080
world war ii in the nazis and helping

1087
00:40:00,850 --> 00:39:58,550
the nazi shield some of their wealth

1088
00:40:02,710 --> 00:40:00,860
away and helping them you know before

1089
00:40:04,420 --> 00:40:02,720
they were taken out can you shed some

1090
00:40:06,610 --> 00:40:04,430
light on that at all well that's well

1091
00:40:09,070 --> 00:40:06,620
documented best book to read on that is

1092
00:40:11,170 --> 00:40:09,080
the Fourth Reich by Jim Marrs

1093
00:40:14,230 --> 00:40:11,180
ma RR s you can get it

1094
00:40:15,970 --> 00:40:14,240
the Fourth Reich by Jim Marrs he

1095
00:40:19,329 --> 00:40:15,980
documents the Vatican ratlines they were

1096
00:40:21,700 --> 00:40:19,339
called the Dominicans and Ratzinger was

1097
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:21,710
a Dominican by the way their Dominicans

1098
00:40:26,530 --> 00:40:24,130
were set up to do the Inquisition back

1099
00:40:28,780 --> 00:40:26,540
eight hundred years ago but the

1100
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:28,790
Dominicans brought out hundreds of Nazis

1101
00:40:33,370 --> 00:40:31,970
through the Vatican through Italy and

1102
00:40:35,020 --> 00:40:33,380
then Portugal and then over to South

1103
00:40:37,030 --> 00:40:35,030
America they also were brought out

1104
00:40:38,829 --> 00:40:37,040
through England through the Catholic

1105
00:40:40,089 --> 00:40:38,839
Church there to Canada and then down to

1106
00:40:42,130 --> 00:40:40,099
the States through this thing called

1107
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:42,140
Project Paperclip

1108
00:40:45,549 --> 00:40:43,490
you might have heard about the rocket

1109
00:40:48,190 --> 00:40:45,559
scientist you know the SS major Bernhard

1110
00:40:50,109 --> 00:40:48,200
von Braun the guy who set up the NASA

1111
00:40:52,690 --> 00:40:50,119
space medicine program and ouch witch

1112
00:40:55,089 --> 00:40:52,700
doctor SS doctor called strughold I mean

1113
00:40:56,319 --> 00:40:55,099
it goes on and on but hundreds and

1114
00:40:58,359 --> 00:40:56,329
hundreds of Nazis were brought in

1115
00:41:01,200 --> 00:40:58,369
through the baddack and rad lines at

1116
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:01,210
close Barbee people who work for the CIA

1117
00:41:06,910 --> 00:41:03,650
because of the whole Eastern European

1118
00:41:09,370 --> 00:41:06,920
spy network Reinhard Galen had Reinhard

1119
00:41:11,559 --> 00:41:09,380
Galen set up the CIA and and established

1120
00:41:14,079 --> 00:41:11,569
the whole Cold War policy in the State

1121
00:41:16,270 --> 00:41:14,089
Department so you know America really

1122
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:16,280
was NASA fied after after World War Two

1123
00:41:20,260 --> 00:41:18,530
and America is really now doing what

1124
00:41:22,809 --> 00:41:20,270
Hitler pioneered which is the corporate

1125
00:41:25,240 --> 00:41:22,819
military industrial state the permanent

1126
00:41:27,309 --> 00:41:25,250
arms economy and state and that's what

1127
00:41:29,109 --> 00:41:27,319
America has become so that's why you

1128
00:41:32,289 --> 00:41:29,119
know the Nazis didn't actually lose the

1129
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:32,299
war they just morphed yeah I've been

1130
00:41:35,650 --> 00:41:33,170
hearing that more and more

1131
00:41:36,819 --> 00:41:35,660
you mentioned the CIA and a lot of

1132
00:41:39,789 --> 00:41:36,829
people are familiar with the MKULTRA

1133
00:41:40,930 --> 00:41:39,799
mind control program did there's a lot

1134
00:41:43,299 --> 00:41:40,940
of speculation they've been getting

1135
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:43,309
victims through the Catholic Church are

1136
00:41:46,780 --> 00:41:44,930
getting guinea pigs through the Catholic

1137
00:41:49,270 --> 00:41:46,790
Church have you found any documentation

1138
00:41:51,970 --> 00:41:49,280
of coercion between the CIA and the and

1139
00:41:54,549 --> 00:41:51,980
the Catholics again that's there's a lot

1140
00:41:56,470 --> 00:41:54,559
of that documented the three MKULTRA the

1141
00:41:58,780 --> 00:41:56,480
the Catholic Church was one of the main

1142
00:42:01,089 --> 00:41:58,790
groups in Canada and the u.s. providing

1143
00:42:02,650 --> 00:42:01,099
kids for experimental purposes often

1144
00:42:05,140 --> 00:42:02,660
kids from military families were used

1145
00:42:07,359 --> 00:42:05,150
when we were I was interviewing native

1146
00:42:08,950 --> 00:42:07,369
people here in the West Coast at the

1147
00:42:10,690 --> 00:42:08,960
Cooper Island Catholic residential

1148
00:42:12,339 --> 00:42:10,700
school they talked about Nazi doctors

1149
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:12,349
showing up german-speaking doctors both

1150
00:42:19,089 --> 00:42:15,650
before and after World War two one woman

1151
00:42:22,089 --> 00:42:19,099
even in Alberta even saw the SS tattoo

1152
00:42:23,470 --> 00:42:22,099
on the arm of one of these doctors who

1153
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:23,480
she thought was Josef Mengele

1154
00:42:26,140 --> 00:42:24,650
but they were

1155
00:42:27,990 --> 00:42:26,150
doing exactly the same experiments the

1156
00:42:30,460 --> 00:42:28,000
Nazis pioneered at Auschwitz the

1157
00:42:33,370 --> 00:42:30,470
decompression chamber experiments the

1158
00:42:34,809 --> 00:42:33,380
eye color alteration all of that stuff

1159
00:42:37,750 --> 00:42:34,819
was going on they may be in hospitals

1160
00:42:39,099 --> 00:42:37,760
and schools you know probably one of the

1161
00:42:40,660 --> 00:42:39,109
reasons the Canadian government sealed

1162
00:42:43,870 --> 00:42:40,670
the records for the any hospitals in

1163
00:42:47,890 --> 00:42:43,880
1999 but you know this stuff is is

1164
00:42:49,539 --> 00:42:47,900
really well documented yeah I mean there

1165
00:42:51,549 --> 00:42:49,549
seems to be a seem to be involved with

1166
00:42:53,650 --> 00:42:51,559
every corrupt organization I mean

1167
00:42:55,359 --> 00:42:53,660
there's even some shady dealings going

1168
00:42:58,329 --> 00:42:55,369
on with the pharmaceutical industry is

1169
00:43:01,299 --> 00:42:58,339
that correct oh yeah well the Vatican

1170
00:43:03,579 --> 00:43:01,309
has a lot invested in Big Pharma they

1171
00:43:05,349 --> 00:43:03,589
they have had historical deals with

1172
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:05,359
pharmaceutical companies going back to

1173
00:43:10,390 --> 00:43:08,210
at least world war ii for using Catholic

1174
00:43:14,170 --> 00:43:10,400
schools Indian Residential schools

1175
00:43:16,599 --> 00:43:14,180
orphanages as drug testing grounds the

1176
00:43:19,329 --> 00:43:16,609
big pharma like Eli Lilly the

1177
00:43:21,490 --> 00:43:19,339
pharmaceutical giant funds American

1178
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:21,500
churches through what's called the fund

1179
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:23,450
for theological education it funds the

1180
00:43:27,039 --> 00:43:24,650
seminaries where priests and ministers

1181
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:27,049
are trained you know there's been long

1182
00:43:34,660 --> 00:43:31,210
ties between big farm in these churches

1183
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:34,670
you know people look at this and you

1184
00:43:39,069 --> 00:43:37,130
know they're involved in CIA mind

1185
00:43:41,289 --> 00:43:39,079
control programs the pharmaceutical

1186
00:43:43,150 --> 00:43:41,299
industry and drug testing they're

1187
00:43:44,769 --> 00:43:43,160
involved in all this stuff it seems so

1188
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:44,779
huge there have to be so many people

1189
00:43:49,269 --> 00:43:47,450
involved and to not have any

1190
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:49,279
whistleblowers on that or to have them

1191
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:52,130
all swept into the rug seems you know it

1192
00:43:57,010 --> 00:43:53,450
just seems like they've been incredibly

1193
00:43:58,690 --> 00:43:57,020
lucky and is this is this court case the

1194
00:44:01,660 --> 00:43:58,700
real thing that's gonna blow the lid off

1195
00:44:03,700 --> 00:44:01,670
all this you know it's another spark I

1196
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:03,710
don't I try to tell people that you know

1197
00:44:06,970 --> 00:44:05,210
we've been limited resources here

1198
00:44:09,730 --> 00:44:06,980
because we're not backed by anybody big

1199
00:44:12,220 --> 00:44:09,740
we just had people and we're a spark the

1200
00:44:13,990 --> 00:44:12,230
best we can do is spark conditions that

1201
00:44:16,329 --> 00:44:14,000
that hopefully will exist so that the

1202
00:44:18,930 --> 00:44:16,339
fire spreads that means people taking

1203
00:44:21,250 --> 00:44:18,940
this and running it with them themselves

1204
00:44:22,750 --> 00:44:21,260
the reason that there aren't a lot of

1205
00:44:24,190 --> 00:44:22,760
whistleblowers around on this well the

1206
00:44:26,309 --> 00:44:24,200
truth is there were and there are all

1207
00:44:28,539 --> 00:44:26,319
the time but how do you hear about them

1208
00:44:30,039 --> 00:44:28,549
you hear about it fortunately through

1209
00:44:31,569 --> 00:44:30,049
the internet this is how we've got I've

1210
00:44:33,339 --> 00:44:31,579
got my story out over 20 years the

1211
00:44:34,390 --> 00:44:33,349
alternative media in the internet you

1212
00:44:35,890 --> 00:44:34,400
can forget the corporate media

1213
00:44:37,930 --> 00:44:35,900
altogether

1214
00:44:38,350 --> 00:44:37,940
the main so-called mainstream we're the

1215
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:38,360
means

1216
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:41,210
I mean American Public Radio has 20

1217
00:44:46,030 --> 00:44:44,690
million listeners now although NPR has

1218
00:44:49,470 --> 00:44:46,040
corporate funding and that you could be

1219
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:49,480
careful about that but you know the the

1220
00:44:53,860 --> 00:44:51,770
fact is that there are these people all

1221
00:44:55,710 --> 00:44:53,870
over who know the truth and a lot of my

1222
00:44:58,330 --> 00:44:55,720
work is trying to link up those people

1223
00:44:59,770 --> 00:44:58,340
but therefore there are honest people

1224
00:45:01,900 --> 00:44:59,780
trying to do the right thing

1225
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:01,910
unfortunately be in these institutions

1226
00:45:06,310 --> 00:45:04,970
but they get whistleblowers get tend to

1227
00:45:07,810 --> 00:45:06,320
get treated in the same way there's a

1228
00:45:10,990 --> 00:45:07,820
manual somewhere of how corporations

1229
00:45:12,550 --> 00:45:11,000
deal with them and that's one of things

1230
00:45:13,570 --> 00:45:12,560
I'll be writing about I've done a little

1231
00:45:14,890 --> 00:45:13,580
bit of work on this but it's really

1232
00:45:16,540 --> 00:45:14,900
important to reach out and help those

1233
00:45:18,460 --> 00:45:16,550
people who are still trying to do the

1234
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:18,470
right thing in there obviously the

1235
00:45:22,330 --> 00:45:20,330
Catholic Church has a long history of at

1236
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:22,340
accusations and cover-ups

1237
00:45:27,190 --> 00:45:24,410
and there's a lot of speculation as to

1238
00:45:28,720 --> 00:45:27,200
what information they may really hold in

1239
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:28,730
the Vatican archives and the Vatican

1240
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:30,610
vaults do you have any information about

1241
00:45:37,540 --> 00:45:34,010
the information they may be holding well

1242
00:45:40,060 --> 00:45:37,550
just hearsay I've seen some references

1243
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:40,070
in documents here and there but you know

1244
00:45:43,660 --> 00:45:41,690
I for example there was a woman here in

1245
00:45:45,430 --> 00:45:43,670
Vancouver Island who said she had an

1246
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:45,440
uncle who was a senior Cardinal from

1247
00:45:51,340 --> 00:45:49,610
Quebec and she met him in in Rome and he

1248
00:45:53,380 --> 00:45:51,350
took her to in there this was would he

1249
00:45:54,910 --> 00:45:53,390
be in the late 1960s and she saw what

1250
00:45:57,490 --> 00:45:54,920
was in the Vatican archives she said it

1251
00:46:00,700 --> 00:45:57,500
was state-of-the-art military protected

1252
00:46:02,530 --> 00:46:00,710
facility where she was seeing things

1253
00:46:04,870 --> 00:46:02,540
like skulls

1254
00:46:08,130 --> 00:46:04,880
you know bone collections in an area the

1255
00:46:11,350 --> 00:46:08,140
size of a football field she said Wow

1256
00:46:13,870 --> 00:46:11,360
arcane like documents and books showing

1257
00:46:14,820 --> 00:46:13,880
records of anyone ever tortured by an

1258
00:46:17,140 --> 00:46:14,830
inquisition

1259
00:46:19,330 --> 00:46:17,150
she also said he mentioned an

1260
00:46:21,610 --> 00:46:19,340
archaeological expedition that the

1261
00:46:24,190 --> 00:46:21,620
Vatican sponsor owns in Cyprus and then

1262
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:24,200
the late 50s that had found solid proof

1263
00:46:29,290 --> 00:46:27,410
of Jesus as a man as a rabbi which

1264
00:46:30,730 --> 00:46:29,300
contradict all church teachings and so

1265
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:30,740
they buried all that so I mean all of

1266
00:46:35,590 --> 00:46:34,130
that is very conceivable and it's a

1267
00:46:39,580 --> 00:46:35,600
matter of getting in there and and

1268
00:46:41,410 --> 00:46:39,590
that's that's I think eventually with

1269
00:46:43,330 --> 00:46:41,420
enough support in that including insider

1270
00:46:44,410 --> 00:46:43,340
support that might be possible but who

1271
00:46:47,110 --> 00:46:44,420
knows at this point I mean they're

1272
00:46:49,330 --> 00:46:47,120
obviously heavily guarded right there's

1273
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:49,340
all kinds of weird stories about secret

1274
00:46:55,240 --> 00:46:52,490
technologies you know the fact that the

1275
00:46:57,550 --> 00:46:55,250
Great Pyramids used to be were there for

1276
00:47:00,010 --> 00:46:57,560
some type of power plant or some type of

1277
00:47:01,510 --> 00:47:00,020
energy creation and that the Vatican

1278
00:47:03,580 --> 00:47:01,520
knows this information and they have a

1279
00:47:06,550 --> 00:47:03,590
lot of stuff in their vaults it would be

1280
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:06,560
amazing to blow that open and if there's

1281
00:47:10,390 --> 00:47:08,330
a seizure of assets I assume that would

1282
00:47:12,670 --> 00:47:10,400
happen but I mean what is the next step

1283
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:12,680
in this in this case what is the next

1284
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:14,330
event to take place the crowning of a

1285
00:47:18,550 --> 00:47:15,490
new pope

1286
00:47:22,300 --> 00:47:18,560
well yeah their Conclave is supposed to

1287
00:47:24,910 --> 00:47:22,310
begin on March 15th and that's when all

1288
00:47:27,460 --> 00:47:24,920
the Cardinals get together and and vote

1289
00:47:29,350 --> 00:47:27,470
on the new pope what who it is I think

1290
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:29,360
is not really that important he's a

1291
00:47:37,030 --> 00:47:32,930
figurehead anyway right right the power

1292
00:47:39,550 --> 00:47:37,040
is definitely it's it's got a problem

1293
00:47:40,990 --> 00:47:39,560
these guys the perfect for example this

1294
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:41,000
Keith of Brendon who's a cardinal in

1295
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:44,210
England top church Catholic Church guy

1296
00:47:48,610 --> 00:47:46,370
in England stepped down and said he

1297
00:47:51,340 --> 00:47:48,620
wasn't going to go to Rome to vote on

1298
00:47:53,290 --> 00:47:51,350
the at the Conclave well every Cardinals

1299
00:47:55,210 --> 00:47:53,300
is supposed to under canon law and yet

1300
00:47:57,130 --> 00:47:55,220
they feel freedom say well no I'm not

1301
00:47:59,230 --> 00:47:57,140
gonna that kind of Independence means

1302
00:48:00,370 --> 00:47:59,240
people are feeling they need to leave

1303
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:00,380
the sinking ship and it wouldn't

1304
00:48:04,930 --> 00:48:03,290
surprise me if bishops and embarrass

1305
00:48:06,850 --> 00:48:04,940
countries decided to break off from Rome

1306
00:48:08,470 --> 00:48:06,860
or at least have more autonomy so I

1307
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:08,480
think we're seeing a repeat of stuff

1308
00:48:12,190 --> 00:48:10,130
that happened in the Reformation 500

1309
00:48:13,930 --> 00:48:12,200
years ago but this time we got to make

1310
00:48:17,020 --> 00:48:13,940
it more complete we got to say yeah we

1311
00:48:19,900 --> 00:48:17,030
got again corporation all together yeah

1312
00:48:21,130 --> 00:48:19,910
I mean there's a lot of pressure on them

1313
00:48:23,110 --> 00:48:21,140
it seems that when you look at these

1314
00:48:25,900 --> 00:48:23,120
little clues like the Pope stepping down

1315
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:25,910
and the Queen canceling her trip it

1316
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:27,770
seems like there is real pressure but

1317
00:48:32,020 --> 00:48:29,450
we're just kept in the dark because the

1318
00:48:34,630 --> 00:48:32,030
media obviously is in bed with them and

1319
00:48:36,430 --> 00:48:34,640
refuses to report on it we've got a lot

1320
00:48:38,860 --> 00:48:36,440
of good sources and that's people within

1321
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:38,870
the church I mean you know like we we do

1322
00:48:43,720 --> 00:48:41,890
know on its people and I you said we're

1323
00:48:45,790 --> 00:48:43,730
qualified because I don't think if

1324
00:48:47,350 --> 00:48:45,800
someone's really honest and they know

1325
00:48:50,620 --> 00:48:47,360
this information that actually stay in

1326
00:48:52,330 --> 00:48:50,630
these churches but anyway there are

1327
00:48:54,700 --> 00:48:52,340
people within the churches who have been

1328
00:48:56,670 --> 00:48:54,710
providing information to myself and

1329
00:48:59,320 --> 00:48:56,680
other people like in Italy and in Europe

1330
00:49:00,880 --> 00:48:59,330
now don't forget this is the the oldest

1331
00:49:02,740 --> 00:49:00,890
and one of the smartest corporations on

1332
00:49:07,900 --> 00:49:02,750
the planet they're masters of deception

1333
00:49:13,839 --> 00:49:10,599
way they operate which is smoke and

1334
00:49:16,750 --> 00:49:13,849
mirrors so you've got a sort through a

1335
00:49:18,820 --> 00:49:16,760
lot of this evidence and and you know

1336
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:18,830
take it with a grain of salt where is

1337
00:49:22,829 --> 00:49:20,930
coming from like this this there's this

1338
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:22,839
thing called the prophecy of Malachi I

1339
00:49:26,380 --> 00:49:24,770
don't know if you've heard about but

1340
00:49:30,250 --> 00:49:26,390
people are claiming oh this is the last

1341
00:49:32,530 --> 00:49:30,260
Pope of this prophesied and he's number

1342
00:49:34,690 --> 00:49:32,540
110 or something well the trouble with

1343
00:49:36,220 --> 00:49:34,700
that figure is that it leaves out a

1344
00:49:37,690 --> 00:49:36,230
number of things in people history at

1345
00:49:40,359 --> 00:49:37,700
one point there were two or three rival

1346
00:49:42,190 --> 00:49:40,369
popes in the 14 sent excommunicated each

1347
00:49:43,660 --> 00:49:42,200
other and there's more than one hundred

1348
00:49:45,910 --> 00:49:43,670
eleven there's Pope Joan in the 10th

1349
00:49:48,910 --> 00:49:45,920
century who a woman from England who

1350
00:49:50,859 --> 00:49:48,920
became Pope for a couple of weeks and

1351
00:49:52,690 --> 00:49:50,869
then they found out she was a woman and

1352
00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:52,700
they killed her and so I mean her name

1353
00:49:58,000 --> 00:49:55,130
was eradicated from church history so I

1354
00:50:00,970 --> 00:49:58,010
mean that number is off and and so you

1355
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:00,980
know you're gonna be careful about papal

1356
00:50:06,099 --> 00:50:02,810
documents they're often forgeries like

1357
00:50:08,589 --> 00:50:06,109
another example is the Pope claims that

1358
00:50:10,720 --> 00:50:08,599
he's the ruler of the world and has for

1359
00:50:12,910 --> 00:50:10,730
centuries according to a document called

1360
00:50:14,740 --> 00:50:12,920
the donation of Constantine where were

1361
00:50:16,990 --> 00:50:14,750
by the emperor was supposed to have

1362
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:17,000
granted all the the the wealth and

1363
00:50:22,150 --> 00:50:18,890
property that you Roman Empire to the

1364
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:22,160
Vatican well the Constantine lived in

1365
00:50:26,470 --> 00:50:24,050
the 4th century this document was proven

1366
00:50:28,870 --> 00:50:26,480
to being written in the 10th so I mean

1367
00:50:30,430 --> 00:50:28,880
you know it's at every level it's for

1368
00:50:32,290 --> 00:50:30,440
dreaming even their their Bible and

1369
00:50:34,089 --> 00:50:32,300
everything most of it is made up so it's

1370
00:50:36,010 --> 00:50:34,099
you got to really be careful when you're

1371
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:36,020
looking at Church sources what are your

1372
00:50:40,690 --> 00:50:38,570
thoughts on prophecy and like universal

1373
00:50:43,089 --> 00:50:40,700
cycles because people say and you know

1374
00:50:44,950 --> 00:50:43,099
after 2012 we're entering a new age and

1375
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:44,960
lies are supposed to be more transparent

1376
00:50:49,270 --> 00:50:47,450
and then you see this happening you know

1377
00:50:51,310 --> 00:50:49,280
right after this time you know right

1378
00:50:52,390 --> 00:50:51,320
right when people have prophesized that

1379
00:50:55,060 --> 00:50:52,400
it would happen I mean is there some

1380
00:50:56,410 --> 00:50:55,070
kind of universal energy that's

1381
00:50:59,680 --> 00:50:56,420
affecting all this or do you think it's

1382
00:51:03,250 --> 00:50:59,690
just coincidence well in this stuff I

1383
00:51:04,599 --> 00:51:03,260
don't think there's coincidences I think

1384
00:51:05,829 --> 00:51:04,609
that there's definitely something work

1385
00:51:07,690 --> 00:51:05,839
I'm trying to kind of get a better

1386
00:51:09,700 --> 00:51:07,700
handle on that but what you can

1387
00:51:12,370 --> 00:51:09,710
definitely say is that there's it's it's

1388
00:51:14,770 --> 00:51:12,380
a time of real shifting and you see it

1389
00:51:17,829 --> 00:51:14,780
in behavior already everywhere the

1390
00:51:19,610 --> 00:51:17,839
people who are kind of caught in a in

1391
00:51:23,030 --> 00:51:19,620
the whole fear the old

1392
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:23,040
a paradigm which is how masses people

1393
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:25,410
were controlled right they're gonna stay

1394
00:51:29,270 --> 00:51:27,810
there but those who were everything is

1395
00:51:31,370 --> 00:51:29,280
energy I mean physicists tell us that

1396
00:51:34,100 --> 00:51:31,380
everything is what energy you're

1397
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:34,110
vibrating on right people who were

1398
00:51:39,890 --> 00:51:36,450
standing more in the light of truth and

1399
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:39,900
love and reason they're not touched by

1400
00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:41,370
that and they're the ones I mean I just

1401
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:43,650
got an email from a guy in Munich

1402
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:44,970
Germany which was great because it's

1403
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:47,370
Ratzinger's hometown he walked into a

1404
00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:49,770
church 500 people were there and he

1405
00:51:52,610 --> 00:51:51,090
starts yelling at the top of his lungs

1406
00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:52,620
about how the Pope is a criminal and

1407
00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:53,850
they chase him out of there and

1408
00:51:58,490 --> 00:51:54,690
everything but that's the kind of

1409
00:52:00,500 --> 00:51:58,500
courage you know that that that person

1410
00:52:01,820 --> 00:52:00,510
like I often hear from native people

1411
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:01,830
it's not so much what might happen to us

1412
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:03,330
if we do it but what's gonna happen if

1413
00:52:08,300 --> 00:52:05,610
we don't do it what shall we suffer

1414
00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:08,310
tomorrow because of this if we don't act

1415
00:52:12,140 --> 00:52:10,170
and that's really the different

1416
00:52:14,990 --> 00:52:12,150
vibration to be living in not fear but

1417
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:15,000
resolve and love and courage and that's

1418
00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:16,650
what we have to rely on to get us

1419
00:52:21,020 --> 00:52:19,530
through what do you think are some

1420
00:52:21,860 --> 00:52:21,030
concrete things people can do because

1421
00:52:24,350 --> 00:52:21,870
you know when the Occupy movement

1422
00:52:26,270 --> 00:52:24,360
happened we were out in the streets we

1423
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:26,280
were trying and then the crackdown

1424
00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:28,410
happened and everybody had to go back to

1425
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:30,090
work I mean people are broke they're

1426
00:52:34,430 --> 00:52:33,090
stuck working 40 hours a week they they

1427
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:34,440
got to get to work they don't really

1428
00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:37,290
have the time to to make a serious stand

1429
00:52:41,990 --> 00:52:39,330
they've got us by the balls kind of you

1430
00:52:44,150 --> 00:52:42,000
know what can people do well that's the

1431
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:44,160
problem as well right wife Carol often

1432
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:46,770
talks to me about this they have people

1433
00:52:50,900 --> 00:52:48,570
trapped as wage slaves not just

1434
00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:50,910
physically but mental wage slaves and

1435
00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:53,130
we're you're caught in a system of debt

1436
00:52:59,030 --> 00:52:55,410
slavery by the time you're what 21 now

1437
00:53:00,230 --> 00:52:59,040
right as long as people operate within

1438
00:53:03,050 --> 00:53:00,240
the system you're right you're

1439
00:53:05,660 --> 00:53:03,060
constrained but the point is we don't

1440
00:53:07,430 --> 00:53:05,670
have to operate in that system and I had

1441
00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:07,440
it easier because I got tossed out of a

1442
00:53:11,780 --> 00:53:09,330
lot of security and I had to make do

1443
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:11,790
somehow away I had to learn this but

1444
00:53:15,260 --> 00:53:13,770
when people have the option of staying

1445
00:53:16,850 --> 00:53:15,270
within the comforts of the system it's

1446
00:53:19,790 --> 00:53:16,860
really hard to get them to see that we

1447
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:19,800
need to make a realtor more so we need

1448
00:53:24,620 --> 00:53:21,690
to build up ways of helping each other

1449
00:53:28,220 --> 00:53:24,630
do that we're living under conditions of

1450
00:53:30,530 --> 00:53:28,230
war where our planet and all of us are

1451
00:53:32,420 --> 00:53:30,540
facing literal extermination we have to

1452
00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:32,430
realize that we have to join that battle

1453
00:53:36,070 --> 00:53:33,410
and that has to

1454
00:53:37,390 --> 00:53:36,080
our highest priority and if you will

1455
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:37,400
need to protect our children and then

1456
00:53:41,620 --> 00:53:40,370
the one sort of come so it's shifting

1457
00:53:43,500 --> 00:53:41,630
our priorities it's finding ways to

1458
00:53:45,430 --> 00:53:43,510
survive it isn't so much a matter of

1459
00:53:47,050 --> 00:53:45,440
physically confronting the system

1460
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:47,060
because if you take all that energy and

1461
00:53:50,410 --> 00:53:48,770
detach from the system you're actually

1462
00:53:52,270 --> 00:53:50,420
having more of an impact cut up your

1463
00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:52,280
credit cards your bank account stop

1464
00:53:57,910 --> 00:53:55,010
going to these stores stop voting stop

1465
00:54:01,210 --> 00:53:57,920
paying taxes the system will be affected

1466
00:54:03,370 --> 00:54:01,220
a lot more than by that then a simple

1467
00:54:06,550 --> 00:54:03,380
protest and don't forget the act of

1468
00:54:07,780 --> 00:54:06,560
protesting itself is based on the idea

1469
00:54:09,430 --> 00:54:07,790
that there's a system that's going to

1470
00:54:10,690 --> 00:54:09,440
respond we're making the demand and

1471
00:54:12,550 --> 00:54:10,700
leaving the initiative in the hands of

1472
00:54:14,650 --> 00:54:12,560
the rulers now that's inherently

1473
00:54:17,140 --> 00:54:14,660
disabling and I know from having done

1474
00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:17,150
this for decades you know when you go to

1475
00:54:20,230 --> 00:54:19,010
protest there's an inevitable letdown

1476
00:54:24,220 --> 00:54:20,240
after because people are thinking well

1477
00:54:26,290 --> 00:54:24,230
what do we achieve okay but and you're

1478
00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:26,300
building an alternative you know

1479
00:54:29,740 --> 00:54:27,890
communities for survival

1480
00:54:31,540 --> 00:54:29,750
and you're doing something to create

1481
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:31,550
something new that's very different and

1482
00:54:35,230 --> 00:54:33,410
it builds it's an ongoing thing that's

1483
00:54:37,090 --> 00:54:35,240
why we say with the arrest warrants it

1484
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:37,100
isn't something that's gonna happen just

1485
00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:38,810
tomorrow we're gonna arrest their system

1486
00:54:44,170 --> 00:54:41,570
and arrest of course which word to stop

1487
00:54:46,510 --> 00:54:44,180
you know it's stopping something so

1488
00:54:48,180 --> 00:54:46,520
that's something new can come up out so

1489
00:54:50,740 --> 00:54:48,190
I don't know I think that that's

1490
00:54:52,660 --> 00:54:50,750
important for people to realize you know

1491
00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:52,670
in all this work right there are a lot

1492
00:54:56,470 --> 00:54:54,650
of talks right now of new systems of

1493
00:54:58,540 --> 00:54:56,480
moneyless systems one of my previous

1494
00:54:59,530 --> 00:54:58,550
guest was Jacque fresco does the Venus

1495
00:55:03,250 --> 00:54:59,540
Project I don't know if you're familiar

1496
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:03,260
with that but there there seems to be a

1497
00:55:09,610 --> 00:55:06,650
lot of talk of the monetary system as a

1498
00:55:11,710 --> 00:55:09,620
whole there isn't really a way to fine

1499
00:55:14,980 --> 00:55:11,720
tune that that it is just a mechanism

1500
00:55:16,660 --> 00:55:14,990
for wage slaves and then you got the

1501
00:55:19,900 --> 00:55:16,670
church on the other hand that is doing a

1502
00:55:21,850 --> 00:55:19,910
lot of the mental prisons that people

1503
00:55:23,350 --> 00:55:21,860
are stuck in what are some steps you

1504
00:55:25,150 --> 00:55:23,360
know you got somebody who's in their

1505
00:55:26,830 --> 00:55:25,160
mid-20s they're going to work they're

1506
00:55:28,210 --> 00:55:26,840
not happy they're not making a lot of

1507
00:55:30,670 --> 00:55:28,220
money there are a couple thousand in

1508
00:55:32,950 --> 00:55:30,680
debt they feel kind of isolated by this

1509
00:55:35,710 --> 00:55:32,960
what are some concrete ways they can

1510
00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:35,720
start to detach like it just seems like

1511
00:55:38,620 --> 00:55:36,770
you're trapped

1512
00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:38,630
well knowledge is power first of all

1513
00:55:43,510 --> 00:55:41,810
learn these things about alternatives

1514
00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:43,520
and what you're really living under but

1515
00:55:46,630 --> 00:55:45,050
also you find two or three other people

1516
00:55:47,260 --> 00:55:46,640
in your neighborhood you've got a

1517
00:55:48,790 --> 00:55:47,270
starting low

1518
00:55:51,130 --> 00:55:48,800
because that's what people can fight for

1519
00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:51,140
I agree with a slogan think globally

1520
00:55:56,560 --> 00:55:54,410
because nobody can think globally you

1521
00:55:57,940 --> 00:55:56,570
can you've got you can have a sense of

1522
00:55:59,800 --> 00:55:57,950
things but what you know is your own

1523
00:56:01,600 --> 00:55:59,810
circumstance your own neighborhood your

1524
00:56:03,790 --> 00:56:01,610
own life your own family your community

1525
00:56:05,740 --> 00:56:03,800
so you get together with people there

1526
00:56:07,720 --> 00:56:05,750
and discuss ok how do we do something

1527
00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:07,730
like open a community garden where we

1528
00:56:10,540 --> 00:56:09,170
don't have to go I mean the fruit is

1529
00:56:13,420 --> 00:56:10,550
want we're on eat on the ground around

1530
00:56:15,580 --> 00:56:13,430
us right give it that freedom feed each

1531
00:56:18,580 --> 00:56:15,590
other and wait there Lund attach lung

1532
00:56:20,740 --> 00:56:18,590
detachment has happened we don't stop

1533
00:56:22,780 --> 00:56:20,750
paying taxes ok under international law

1534
00:56:24,580 --> 00:56:22,790
you're obligated not to pay taxes to a

1535
00:56:26,350 --> 00:56:24,590
government that's committed war crimes

1536
00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:26,360
which is the US government is doing that

1537
00:56:31,500 --> 00:56:29,210
right now as we speak you're supported

1538
00:56:33,359 --> 00:56:31,510
in international law and by doing that

1539
00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:33,369
you know

1540
00:56:37,420 --> 00:56:36,050
sadier the people you vote for well I

1541
00:56:40,180 --> 00:56:37,430
can't vote for you anymore because who

1542
00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:40,190
do you really represent in all of these

1543
00:56:44,410 --> 00:56:42,410
things are important thing is to start

1544
00:56:45,850 --> 00:56:44,420
doing them keep doing them because it's

1545
00:56:48,190 --> 00:56:45,860
by keeping doing something that you're

1546
00:56:51,790 --> 00:56:48,200
learning to grow stronger together true

1547
00:56:54,940 --> 00:56:51,800
I agree on the issue of not paying taxes

1548
00:56:56,859 --> 00:56:54,950
I mean the Aaron Russo put out a movie a

1549
00:56:59,440 --> 00:56:56,869
few years ago freedom to fascism and it

1550
00:57:01,359 --> 00:56:59,450
was all about how there are you know the

1551
00:57:03,220 --> 00:57:01,369
payroll tax you're not supposed to have

1552
00:57:05,230 --> 00:57:03,230
to pay it's not anywhere legally on the

1553
00:57:08,050 --> 00:57:05,240
books no politician can really point to

1554
00:57:10,330 --> 00:57:08,060
an area of the code that says you have

1555
00:57:13,390 --> 00:57:10,340
to pay this obviously the tax code is

1556
00:57:15,700 --> 00:57:13,400
way too convoluted for anyone to even

1557
00:57:17,140 --> 00:57:15,710
read but you know you're gonna get

1558
00:57:19,450 --> 00:57:17,150
thrown in jail you know you're gonna get

1559
00:57:21,550 --> 00:57:19,460
put away it doesn't seem to really

1560
00:57:23,620 --> 00:57:21,560
matter what's on paper when there's such

1561
00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:23,630
a strong perception that you got to pay

1562
00:57:28,390 --> 00:57:25,730
this [\h__\h] or you're going to jail my

1563
00:57:30,490 --> 00:57:28,400
American heroes is Henry Thoreau who

1564
00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:30,500
wrote Walden and in the 1840s he

1565
00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:33,730
wouldn't pay taxes of 1850s actually

1566
00:57:38,710 --> 00:57:35,690
because he was gonna fund the

1567
00:57:41,890 --> 00:57:38,720
mexican-american war and he went to jail

1568
00:57:43,540 --> 00:57:41,900
and Emerson the American writer came in

1569
00:57:47,230 --> 00:57:43,550
and said Ralph what are you doing in

1570
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:47,240
jail and he said I Missy I'm sorry he

1571
00:57:52,270 --> 00:57:49,010
said Henry wood you know he said ruff

1572
00:57:54,849 --> 00:57:52,280
what are you doing not in jail it's kind

1573
00:57:57,010 --> 00:57:54,859
of like civil disobedience is one thing

1574
00:57:58,420 --> 00:57:57,020
but we're not any laws by this it's the

1575
00:58:01,150 --> 00:57:58,430
American government that's breaking the

1576
00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:01,160
international law by finding illegal

1577
00:58:06,160 --> 00:58:03,730
wars in Iraq and Afghanistan by allowing

1578
00:58:07,900 --> 00:58:06,170
child raping criminal bodies like the

1579
00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:07,910
Vatican operator operate openly with

1580
00:58:10,750 --> 00:58:09,530
taxpayer supported money in America

1581
00:58:13,510 --> 00:58:10,760
those are all crimes under international

1582
00:58:16,150 --> 00:58:13,520
law you're obligated everyone listening

1583
00:58:18,460 --> 00:58:16,160
is obligated not to fund crime and

1584
00:58:20,380 --> 00:58:18,470
that's what we mean about taking back to

1585
00:58:22,180 --> 00:58:20,390
law the law is being used against us

1586
00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:22,190
that's why citizens have to take it back

1587
00:58:25,779 --> 00:58:24,410
common law courts you guys can set up a

1588
00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:25,789
common law court in your community with

1589
00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:28,010
12 sworn jurors we're gonna put out a

1590
00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:30,530
manual on how to do that and judge for

1591
00:58:34,120 --> 00:58:32,170
yourselves in a community what's right

1592
00:58:36,190 --> 00:58:34,130
there's a difference between something

1593
00:58:37,450 --> 00:58:36,200
being legal which is a statute bred in

1594
00:58:41,020 --> 00:58:37,460
by a government and something that's

1595
00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:41,030
lawful OMA is one that squares with

1596
00:58:44,589 --> 00:58:43,130
natural law which we all know about

1597
00:58:46,559 --> 00:58:44,599
inherently that's what the founding

1598
00:58:48,970 --> 00:58:46,569
fathers said we have an inherent right

1599
00:58:52,210 --> 00:58:48,980
because we know innately what's right

1600
00:58:54,010 --> 00:58:52,220
and wrong right a legal statute doesn't

1601
00:58:55,990 --> 00:58:54,020
square with the natural law of justice

1602
00:58:58,029 --> 00:58:56,000
it can be ignored and should be ignored

1603
00:58:59,710 --> 00:58:58,039
and when you then police come and arrest

1604
00:59:01,329 --> 00:58:59,720
you say where's it let me see your oath

1605
00:59:02,740 --> 00:59:01,339
of office you're sworn to protect the

1606
00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:02,750
Constitution there's a group called the

1607
00:59:07,420 --> 00:59:05,210
oath keepers and the American military

1608
00:59:08,620 --> 00:59:07,430
and police and Sheriff's that are you

1609
00:59:10,809 --> 00:59:08,630
should check out if you don't know about

1610
00:59:13,180 --> 00:59:10,819
that already they're saying we're

1611
00:59:15,130 --> 00:59:13,190
there's edges that are asking every

1612
00:59:18,510 --> 00:59:15,140
soldier in policeman and sheriff to take

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and that is we will not do any measure

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00:59:24,299 --> 00:59:20,930
to violate the Constitution of the

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rights of American citizens you know and

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00:59:29,559 --> 00:59:27,559
that's what we need that the the people

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00:59:33,880 --> 00:59:29,569
are the forces are to serve the people

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00:59:35,680 --> 00:59:33,890
not be a hammer over them it's again

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00:59:38,470 --> 00:59:35,690
about to be about that time tell us

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00:59:41,220 --> 00:59:38,480
about this Easter reclamation events

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00:59:44,019 --> 00:59:41,230
that are coming up on March 24th

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00:59:46,569 --> 00:59:44,029
well we're as part of the common law of

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00:59:48,519 --> 00:59:46,579
sin sonorus warrants we're urging people

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00:59:50,230 --> 00:59:48,529
to peacefully occupy take back these

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00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:50,240
church property especially the Catholic

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00:59:57,730 --> 00:59:55,010
Church and during Easter week that's the

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01:00:00,010 --> 00:59:57,740
24th to the 31st Easter Sunday is March

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01:00:04,569 --> 01:00:00,020
31st we're going to be doing occupations

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01:00:07,450 --> 01:00:04,579
teachings sit-ins and more exorcisms

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01:00:09,720 --> 01:00:07,460
spiritual to bring down this corrupt

1631
01:00:14,109 --> 01:00:09,730
institution the oldest one in history so

1632
01:00:15,010 --> 01:00:14,119
we if people want to see ITC CS or or

1633
01:00:18,850 --> 01:00:15,020
you can write to me

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01:00:21,070 --> 01:00:18,860
hidden from history one at gmail.com I'm

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01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:21,080
again coming down the West Coast in in

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01:00:25,030 --> 01:00:22,730
the summer and I'd love to come and I

1637
01:00:28,120 --> 01:00:25,040
will be coming to San Diego LA the Bay

1638
01:00:30,610 --> 01:00:28,130
Area all over California so let's plan

1639
01:00:33,790 --> 01:00:30,620
some events absolutely and you briefly

1640
01:00:35,500 --> 01:00:33,800
mentioned an exorcism because people are

1641
01:00:37,990 --> 01:00:35,510
in some type of trance State I mean

1642
01:00:40,450 --> 01:00:38,000
that's pretty common but are people

1643
01:00:43,090 --> 01:00:40,460
having effects from going under some

1644
01:00:44,710 --> 01:00:43,100
type of exorcism on a wide scale because

1645
01:00:46,300 --> 01:00:44,720
definitely heavy you know one way you

1646
01:00:49,330 --> 01:00:46,310
could look at all of this is that it is

1647
01:00:52,060 --> 01:00:49,340
a massive exorcism that's having an

1648
01:00:53,350 --> 01:00:52,070
impact look at the behavior of these

1649
01:00:55,060 --> 01:00:53,360
people they're supposed to be the most

1650
01:00:56,740 --> 01:00:55,070
powerful people on the planet and

1651
01:00:59,770 --> 01:00:56,750
they're hiding out in their palaces like

1652
01:01:01,330 --> 01:00:59,780
frightened criminals which is who they

1653
01:01:02,980 --> 01:01:01,340
are so that's not the behavior of

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01:01:05,170 --> 01:01:02,990
somebody in charge it means that from

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01:01:06,580 --> 01:01:05,180
within there's something happening where

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01:01:09,010 --> 01:01:06,590
they're losing their power and that can

1657
01:01:10,540 --> 01:01:09,020
only happen spiritually that's why I

1658
01:01:11,740 --> 01:01:10,550
know that then we have the high ground

1659
01:01:15,190 --> 01:01:11,750
and that's where we're gonna keep it

1660
01:01:17,620 --> 01:01:15,200
well said and as this pressure gets gets

1661
01:01:19,180 --> 01:01:17,630
more on the doorstep of the Queen of

1662
01:01:22,630 --> 01:01:19,190
England of the Prime Minister of Canada

1663
01:01:26,670 --> 01:01:22,640
of the Pope our arrests going to be made

1664
01:01:29,410 --> 01:01:26,680
are we gonna see that soon yes I know

1665
01:01:32,650 --> 01:01:29,420
that is so similarly gonna be attempted

1666
01:01:35,290 --> 01:01:32,660
and even if you don't physically detain

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01:01:38,050 --> 01:01:35,300
these people rulers keep their power

1668
01:01:39,610 --> 01:01:38,060
through legitimacy and once you know the

1669
01:01:41,350 --> 01:01:39,620
Prime Minister and others are running

1670
01:01:44,170 --> 01:01:41,360
around hiding from citizen arrest

1671
01:01:45,520 --> 01:01:44,180
warrants they look like fools and they

1672
01:01:47,290 --> 01:01:45,530
might as well be under arrest if they're

1673
01:01:49,420 --> 01:01:47,300
hiding out in there in under in their

1674
01:01:51,130 --> 01:01:49,430
system so I think there's a lot of ways

1675
01:01:52,420 --> 01:01:51,140
to look at this it doesn't require you

1676
01:01:53,860 --> 01:01:52,430
know you win or lose according to

1677
01:01:55,150 --> 01:01:53,870
whether you physically grab the guy I

1678
01:01:57,580 --> 01:01:55,160
mean that that's not what this is about

1679
01:01:59,400 --> 01:01:57,590
right you got to shatter the perception

1680
01:02:01,570 --> 01:01:59,410
yeah exactly

1681
01:02:02,740 --> 01:02:01,580
well Kevin I know you got another of

1682
01:02:04,450 --> 01:02:02,750
unive you coming up I don't want to keep

1683
01:02:06,100 --> 01:02:04,460
you too long it's been a great chat I'm

1684
01:02:07,720 --> 01:02:06,110
glad you could give us the real info

1685
01:02:09,040 --> 01:02:07,730
about what's happening here is there

1686
01:02:11,140 --> 01:02:09,050
anything else you'd like to inform the

1687
01:02:14,020 --> 01:02:11,150
people on before we go your maybe your

1688
01:02:16,600 --> 01:02:14,030
websites you know it's hidden no longer

1689
01:02:18,400 --> 01:02:16,610
calm for the issue of evidence of

1690
01:02:20,440 --> 01:02:18,410
genocide in Canada and our film

1691
01:02:23,470 --> 01:02:20,450
unrepentant and the tribunal website is

1692
01:02:25,870 --> 01:02:23,480
IT ccs org

1693
01:02:27,700 --> 01:02:25,880
and that's all of our latest updates you

1694
01:02:28,870 --> 01:02:27,710
can see a copy of the arrest warrant

1695
01:02:32,259 --> 01:02:28,880
today if you go to that

1696
01:02:34,479 --> 01:02:32,269
i TC CS org and write to me and hidden

1697
01:02:36,630 --> 01:02:34,489
from history one the number one hidden

1698
01:02:39,190 --> 01:02:36,640
from history 1 at gmail.com and

1699
01:02:40,509 --> 01:02:39,200
hopefully see you on in July when I come

1700
01:02:41,890 --> 01:02:40,519
down absolutely

1701
01:02:43,509 --> 01:02:41,900
thanks again I really admire your

1702
01:02:45,339 --> 01:02:43,519
courage and hard work I wish you the

1703
01:02:47,589 --> 01:02:45,349
best of luck I'll be pulling for you all

1704
01:02:49,390 --> 01:02:47,599
the way and hopefully we can start to

1705
01:02:51,400 --> 01:02:49,400
tear down these corrupt organizations

1706
01:02:53,200 --> 01:02:51,410
starting at the top thanks a lot Greg

1707
01:02:55,749 --> 01:02:53,210
I'll talk to you soon about love July

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01:02:58,059 --> 01:02:55,759
alrighty thank you have a good one for

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01:02:59,799 --> 01:02:58,069
now there you have it people kevin

1710
01:03:01,660 --> 01:02:59,809
annette doing what he can to bring down

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01:03:03,370 --> 01:03:01,670
the man thanks for listening you know

1712
01:03:04,870 --> 01:03:03,380
the drill I'm selling t-shirts over two

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01:03:07,089 --> 01:03:04,880
conspiracies dotnet and I'm writing

1714
01:03:09,069 --> 01:03:07,099
Bernie Madoff letters in the off days no

1715
01:03:10,569 --> 01:03:09,079
response yet unfortunately keep sharing

1716
01:03:11,589 --> 01:03:10,579
the show and helping it grow and I'll

1717
01:03:14,049 --> 01:03:11,599
see you next week

1718
01:03:16,239 --> 01:03:14,059
now that Pope Benedict aka Joseph

1719
01:03:18,549 --> 01:03:16,249
Ratzinger is stepping down and the heat

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01:03:21,549 --> 01:03:18,559
is on I figured he must be feeling